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Steve Meyer
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Initially Posted - 04/30/2010 :  09:57:51  Show Profile
I have an old catalina 25 SFK. Traditional interior. The keel is iron. This boat has a bent roller furler, no mast and has been neglected since 2003. How difficult is it to find a mast? This would be a HUGE rehab job, but I would hate to see the boat die. I guess it hinges on the mast availability. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/30/2010 :  10:29:48  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Steve,
I guess it kind of depends (some) on where you live and how much you're willing to spend (more) refurbishing a boat. If you're anywhere near the Gulf Coast, it might be fairly easy to find a mast due to the destruction from Katrina, Rita, Ike, etc. There were tons of boats up for sale, same for parts salvaged from destroyed boats. According to Don Casey, if the hull is sound, most any sailboat can be brought back to life from even a sadly neglected state. I'm not sure I'd be up for the work involved, but maybe you enjoy it. I like my maintenance tasks in small bites, not huge projects where I can't even sail.

Expect the restoration will take about 3x what you estimate it will. In my industry one of the standard jokes is to estimate how long something will take, then multiply by pi for a true estimate. This works surprisingly well.

There is a wealth of knowledge & helpful folks on here to see you through it if you decide to take on the project.
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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 04/30/2010 :  10:42:15  Show Profile
As much as I hate to see a C25 get scrapped I would recommend you not take it on. For a fraction of what it will cost to restore you should be able to purchase a ready to sail boat. Even good looking boats surprise people with the immediate fixes they need to make. A neglected wreck will be much worse.
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Steve Meyer
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Response Posted - 04/30/2010 :  12:57:48  Show Profile
Ooops.
I left out two important facts.
1) I have been the proud owner of hull 1213 (Turtle Herd) for 15 years.
2) I'm in Oklahoma City.
The boat I speak of was damaged in a tornado in 2003 and has been sitting there untouched since. It has a trailer, bimini, outboard, winches, cabin trim pieces and some old but useable sails.
It would be much quicker just to part it out, but I love these boats and kind of feel like Dr. Kevorkian.
I'll et you all know how it turns out. Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it.
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/30/2010 :  15:34:18  Show Profile
You said two big things for me. I'd part it out. The trailer, assuming it's in good, serviceable shape and the outboard, depending on its age, good provide some nice new toys for Turtle Herd.
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txbigfoot
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Response Posted - 04/30/2010 :  18:48:01  Show Profile
I have a standard rig mast I would sell. I am only in austin a somewhat short drive of 8 hours.
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 04/30/2010 :  19:10:21  Show Profile
That changes things. Maybe you could get together and donate the thing to a Sea Scout Ship that is looking for a project.
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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 05/08/2010 :  19:50:05  Show Profile
Restoring a boat is an act of love, an act that many have the heart for but few have the time or resources to complete. Based on what you have said I would make a few attempts to find a buyer who will make a best effort to restore her -- however -- I expect that parting her out will be the end game that makes the most sense. I have restored (or at least am in the process of doing so) a grand old lady of a 25 and as rewarding as it has been on one level, it has been extremely expensive with no end in sight of the extreme annual costs needed to make her like new. The sad truth is that our fleet is aging and as that happens more will become part-out boats rather than fix-up boats.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 05/08/2010 :  20:09:41  Show Profile
But again, it really depends on your evaluation of the project. Neglect can be cosmetic or major deterioration; you must look at the boat with a critical eye to determine what is involved. Mast and rigging is no different than what we do for spring commissioning except for buying parts. I put a lot non-cost effective labor into my last boat, but I was happy that I did it. The new owner was thrilled with with her and could see through the 4 - 5 years of cosmetic neglect and was ready to restore her to her previous beauty. One of William Crealock's early designs is again slipping through Lake Erie.
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