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Sloop Smitten
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Initially Posted - 05/02/2010 :  20:00:01  Show Profile
I lowered my mast this weekend with the intent of moving my forestay from the front pin to the next pin back so I could use the front pin for the halyard for my asymmetrical spinnaker. I have external halyard with two sets of dual sheaves. There is a cross brace forward of the forward sheaves that would appear to interfere with accomplishing this. Can anyone offer some suggestions on how I can convert my existing setup so the foresail halyard is forward and the forestay is behind? Foreward is to the right in the picture below.

Joe Wergers
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78 C25 FK/SR #381

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 05/03/2010 :  06:10:36  Show Profile
Hi Joe,
Actually, the forestay should have been in the pin that you want to use. The most forward pin was designed to hold the spinnaker halyard block's shackle.
Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 05/03/2010 :  07:04:02  Show Profile
My intent was to use the jib halyard for my spinnaker as I have a CDI furler which makes that halyard unnecessary.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 05/03/2010 :  11:24:16  Show Profile
So I went back and did some reading and it appears while you can use your jib halyard for a spinnaker halyard you cannot use the existing halyard sheaves but need to reroute the halyard so it goes vertical fore of the mast up to a block attached to the foreward pin. Correct?

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 05/03/2010 :  13:05:21  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
The spinnaker halyard block must be a swivel block and must be on that most right pin, with the forestay behind it.

That is, if you intend to every gybe the asym!

Buy a strong swivel block because the force can be huge.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 05/03/2010 :  14:00:21  Show Profile
I understand that. My question concerns the routing of the halyard prior to reaching the swivel block. Can the existing mast halyard sheaves be utilized.

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islander
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Response Posted - 05/03/2010 :  14:58:18  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">So I went back and did some reading and it appears while you can use your jib halyard for a spinnaker halyard you cannot use the existing halyard sheaves but need to reroute the halyard so it goes vertical fore of the mast up to a block attached to the foreward pin. Correct<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I believe this is correct. The halyard has to be taken off the sheave and put on the new swivel block. And while your at it spring for a new masthead light. That one is lookin' prty shabby

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 05/04/2010 :  07:05:06  Show Profile
Hi Joe,
It looks like your halyards are all rope - - so, yes, it will work to route the existing jib halyard through the spinnaker block. The halyard may experience chafe from the casting piece that is forward of the sheeve and/or from the top of the forestay. So, check for chafe frequently.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 05/04/2010 :  11:52:19  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
You cannot use the existing sheeve for your spinnaker unless you exit the halyard some distance below the mast head. To do this you'd have to select a location, probably a foot or so down the mast, drill a hole large enough for the halyard, and elongate it so the line can run freely up to the spinnaker block without chafing n the top edge of the hole. Then you have to fish the halyard down to the hole and out. The problem is compounded if your wiring is run through a PVC tube in the front part of the mast as most of the newer boats are.

In short, a huge hassle. I thought about it and settled for an external halyard for my assym. Its the only one on the boat that runs this way. I have three others that run in the mast, main and two genoa halyards.

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