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PCP777
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Response Posted - 05/25/2010 : 06:30:26

The other issue I have is that even with the motor up and "kicked back" I still drag the prop on port tack. (I have a 79 C-25 with a Merc 9.9 long shaft) Any ideas on that?

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/25/2010 : 07:25:32

Attaching the b/t to the stern pulpit would not be bad, in fact you'll probably need to in order to get the needed leverage.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/25/2010 : 10:21:58

Unless I have the motor in full up tilted position, I will sometimes drag the prop on port tack. Hard to avoid with the extra long shaft.

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Boomeroo
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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 03:05:40

The ability to raise and lower the Outboard is critical both for us old badback people and for safe use in waves . the attached photo shows the sail track mounted outboard bracket which allows an extra 10 '' of vertical movement .
I hope the link works as I failed to include the photos in this reply .... https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0AY4h3mePrtrlZGMzMjhkeG5fMWZ2ZjU0cmM0&sort=name&layout=list&num=50

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 03:52:39

I replaced my 2 spring Garhauer with the 4 spring version, primarily so I could utilize the same holes thru the transom and the old outboard hung off of it fine. The photo shows my old outboard but I replaced it with a new Honda long shaft 9.9hp soon after I installed the new bracket. I leave my boat at the finger slip with the outboard in the full raised but vertical position and in that position, 1 prop blade and the bottom of the fin remain in the water. When I go sailing, I raise the outboard in the full tilt position and the prop does not come close to the water regardless of wind/water conditions.

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 06:43:28

Peter,

It took me 2 years to learn that my Honda 9.9 had 3 tilt-up positions, and I used to drag the lower unit of the outboard when heeled to port. My 78 C-25 has the outboard to port, like yours.

After I discovered the highest tilt angle the prop stays out of the water, but the outboard tiller bangs against the transom when I raise it all the way.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 06/03/2010 : 10:50:17

If you want to push buttons to raise your motor, check out the Yamaha 8 hp long shaft 4-stroke with high thrust prop. If has an electic tilt mechanism. It was originally designed as a "kicker" for trolling but has caught on here as an aux engine for sail boats in the 23 to 25 foot range. It's on my wish list but since I rarely use my Evinrude 9.9 anyway I can't see spending the $$$$$.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/05/2010 : 16:05:06

I discovered today that if I leave the mount, Fulton model 1810, in the middle position, then I have enough room to raise the motor to the full tilt position and get it all the way out of the water.

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DanM
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Response Posted - 06/06/2010 : 06:20:11

When I fashioned the b/t, I ran an eyebolt through an existing hole in the motor carrying handle. A block attached to that. Another block attached by a bracket to the pushpit. That one had an extra eye. The 5/8" line ran from that eye down to the first mentioned block, then up through the second block and out to my hands, creating a mechanical advantage of 2(if my high school physics serves). The pushpit rail is sturdy and most of the pressure on it was vertical, anyway, not horizontal.
Thinking that the b/t rig was temporary and looked a little goofy, and that the admiral wasn't comfortable with it, I tried instead adding a ss coil spring or two from the hardware store. Very inexpensive, but almost impossible to attach.
That's when I spent the wise cash and ordered the Garhauer mount from CD. Installation at the dock was a snap, following the advice from previous posters (starboard, longer ss bolts, and internal backup). Three seasons good performance and appearance. Looks like Larry's photo.

Edited by - DanM on 06/06/2010 06:28:22

PCP777
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Response Posted - 06/07/2010 : 09:16:22

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JohnP
 Peter,

It took me 2 years to learn that my Honda 9.9 had 3 tilt-up positions, and I used to drag the lower unit of the outboard when heeled to port. My 78 C-25 has the outboard to port, like yours.

After I discovered the highest tilt angle the prop stays out of the water, but the outboard tiller bangs against the transom when I raise it all the way.

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I think mine has three positions as whenever I leave it in gear and tilt it back it clicks three times and sits out of the water at an angle. Even clicked all the way back, it still drags.

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dflynnatc
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Response Posted - 06/07/2010 : 12:18:41

Block and Tackle only made it _slightly_ less of a PITA. Still had to have someone pull on B/T while I was opperating the handle on the mount. Now I'm wondering if I have a problem with the mount. As I am new to the boat, did NOT operate prior to installing the engine on the mount. Sprayed it with WD-40 before leaving the boat. Hopefully it will be freed up. And it is a 4 spring mount.

Anyone have experience with one "seizing"?

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/08/2010 : 03:19:57

You would have had a very hard time operating the mount without any weight on it, in fact it is dangerous to try it. Does your mount look like the one in Larry's photo above, i.e. 4 arms with springs in between them, or are the arms very close together?
With 4 springs, it should handle the weight of a 9.9 hp motor with little effort on your part.

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PZell
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Response Posted - 03/16/2011 : 07:04:05

Graeme, That is one super idea. I know a guy has a Catalina 27 that uses similar system. It was a home built mount that was done up by his machinist father-in-law. It's so cool. Just slides the motor up. Also saw a commercial version that does this on a MacGregor at a boat show once.

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