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DaveR
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Initially Posted - 06/16/2010 :  08:03:35  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
What's the standard jib/main sheet size, 5/8? I'm getting some cam cleats to replace standard cleats atop the coaming. Thanks!
Dave Robbins
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  08:55:08  Show Profile
I'm on an inland lake, so the coastal requirements may be different. My main sheet and genoa sheets are 3/8". The sheets on my working jib are heavier, 1/2" to 5/8", but they came with the sail when I bought the boat. I've never needed anything bigger than 3/8" but there have been outings when 1/2" would have felt more comfortable in the hands.
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redeye
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  09:04:51  Show Profile
http://home.comcast.net/~c30sailor/c25/c25specs.htm

Sounds like 5/16 to 7/16 is the range.

Seems the opinion from a search is ... bigger line is more comfortable, but heavy. Smaller line is better, just add gloves.

Also sounds like there is no standard size.

Fun to debate.

I like to try a different size every time I rig... First I liked the 3/8 cause it felt Good on my hands, and then I got tired of throwing around what felt like a big wet snake in the seats.

Now I'm going smaller and looking for cool gloves ( Gloucester lobster gloves, I'm so cool.... )
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  09:08:19  Show Profile
For more comfort and easier handling, take a look at 3/8" <i>single-braid</i>.
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redeye
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  09:23:02  Show Profile
&lt;&lt; 3/8" single-braid for Sheets &gt;&gt;

There's the man that knows. Any brand you'd name Dave? I had some Solid Blue line on my last boat that fuzzed out really soft and I loved it, but I never can remember what it was.

It was heavy when wet, so not so good in light air.

So there is your rub.... Bamboo ought to be out in pretty good wind on the east coast.
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  10:20:49  Show Profile
I'm pretty sure JimB uses 3/8" sheets.

That's what I have.

PZell on the San Francisco Bay sails in all conditions and I seem to remember he has 3/8" sheets also. I would have noticed if they were bigger.

On the other hand, PCP777 has all kinds of cool running rigging and his PO installed 1/2" sheets. They felt like overkill to me - like docklines for millions of hours of stress. Thanks for the afternoon sail, Peter!

(My 60% storm jib has weird, lightweight, 3/8", pale green, polypropylene (?) sheets. I just don't know how good or how old they are! But that's off-topic.)

Boy, I've had a lot of fun with Catalina sailboats! I'm going to try to go out on my boat this weekend - Took 2 days vacation, even though there won't be much wind around here.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  10:23:19  Show Profile
I use a single braid line called BZZZ line, available from Milwaukee Rigging on Ebay, and like it very much - runs fast through the blocks and no kinking. Actually, I use it on both the C-25 and racing the C-22. doesn't absorb much waterAnother good brand is Salsa, especially for the main sheet (9 or 10 mm line size). There's another one popular with the C-22 and dinghy racers called FSE Robline, but I found it rough on the hands, chewed up my finger tips (wearing sailing gloves).

Here's a link to the BZZZ line:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/8mm-BZZZ-Rope-White-Silver-per-10-ft-1698-08-/260359591732?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item3c9ea41734
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DaveR
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  11:56:00  Show Profile  Visit DaveR's Homepage
I bet I've got 3/8". And believe it or not Ray, we are not a windy place, 5 to 15 on a summer day with a dead spot around noon. Just went down to West Marine at lunch and those guys want 30 bucks for a cam cleat. WOW! I'll be ordering mine from Defender!
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redeye
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  12:09:33  Show Profile
Yepper.. those cam cleats are spensive..
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redeye
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  12:27:19  Show Profile
http://www.usairnet.com/cgi-bin/launch/code.cgi?Submit=Go&sta=KDAB&state=FL

Not much wind for the next several days..
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  15:35:18  Show Profile
I think 5/8 would be way overkill. Something to consider is how big a line your blocks, and cleats will accommodate.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/16/2010 :  16:52:23  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I'm currently sailing a boat that is about twice the sail area and twice the weight. We use 7/16ths for the mainsheet and 3/8ths for the jib sheets. All double braid.
On the C-25 we used all 3/8ths. All double braid.
I think the soft stuff Ray was talking about is Trophy braid (also a double braid) from Samson.

5/8ths is way to heavy a line for a c-25. 95% of the time that line weight is going to ruin sail shape. It is also going to make tacking a bigger pain.

I wouldn't go above 3/8ths if cruising and would probably recommend 5/16ths if racing. As mentioned above, most of the blocks and cleats aren't going to handle that larger size line.
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Response Posted - 06/17/2010 :  09:05:53  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JohnP</i>
<br />I'm pretty sure JimB uses 3/8" sheets.

That's what I have.

PZell on the San Francisco Bay sails in all conditions and I seem to remember he has 3/8" sheets also. I would have noticed if they were bigger.

On the other hand, PCP777 has all kinds of cool running rigging and his PO installed 1/2" sheets. They felt like overkill to me - like docklines for millions of hours of stress. Thanks for the afternoon sail, Peter!

(My 60% storm jib has weird, lightweight, 3/8", pale green, polypropylene (?) sheets. I just don't know how good or how old they are! But that's off-topic.)

Boy, I've had a lot of fun with Catalina sailboats! I'm going to try to go out on my boat this weekend - Took 2 days vacation, even though there won't be much wind around here.

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That was really fun. Wish we'd had a bit more wind though. Yeah my sheets are big and go very nicely with my eight winches.
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redeye
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Response Posted - 06/18/2010 :  05:36:14  Show Profile
&lt;&lt; I think the soft stuff Ray was talking about is Trophy braid (also a double braid) from Samson. &gt;&gt;

I do so much tacking on my little lake...

I'll order some of that up and see... It's probably in mm .
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/18/2010 :  07:58:56  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
http://www.samsonrope.com/index.cfm?ind=1&app=2&rope=97&inst=1
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