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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 11/13/2002 :  17:11:40  Show Profile
Bren,

I had seen the name "ruah" somewhere in these forums and thought that it was Old Testament referance to the Spirit. glad to hear your story! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Don Peet
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The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 11/14/2002 :  12:17:20  Show Profile
I saw somewhere an article about re-naming boats. It is some type of ritual that takes 6 months to a year to complete. I am not interested in re-naming "Moon Chaser" but if anyone knows about the process it would be fun to review. Since just scrapping off the old name and sticking on a new one is bad luck, I would certainly want to follow tradition!
Steve Steakley


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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 11/14/2002 :  13:17:12  Show Profile
RichardG,

I sure like your dingy, wish I had one.

Its likely buddy Paul and me will partner up and buy a walkerbay 8footer. If not, I have the plans for the homemade 7'6" Nutshell to build this winter.

Since we called her Hey Jude, I thought we'd name the dingy "Love Me Tender" <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

Jim Williams
Hey Jude C25fk 2958
SF Bay


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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/14/2002 :  14:03:27  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
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I saw somewhere an article about re-naming boats. It is some type of ritual that takes 6 months to a year to complete. I am not interested in re-naming "Moon Chaser" but if anyone knows about the process it would be fun to review. Since just scrapping off the old name and sticking on a new one is bad luck, I would certainly want to follow tradition!
Steve Steakley


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Steve, we had a great thread on this...again in the old forum. I had compiled about 10 different ceremonies with a synopsis...Here are a few of them (1st one is probably the article you read)

http://www.48north.com/mr_offline/denaming.htm

http://www.c34.org/renaming.html

http://www.cfycnc.com/Newsletter/2000/Aug00Binnacle.pdf A bit down in the pdf file

http://tanzer.freeservers.com/boat_denaming.htm


In the old thread, I even had quotes from old literature regarding what could happen if you improperly rename a boat, but I cannot find them......One thing I seem to remember is that I didn't see is that anyone who walks by the boat during the ceremony must have a drink!!

dw


Duane Wolff
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Chief Measurer C-25/250 National Assn.
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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 11/14/2002 :  17:28:20  Show Profile
Steve said,

<b>Since just scrapping off the old name and sticking on a new one is bad luck,</b>

Baa, humbug

Don Peet
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The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/14/2002 :  17:59:40  Show Profile
<b>"I sure like your dingy, wish I had one." Jim</b>

We're talking about a boat...right?

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Lake Erie

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MattL
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Response Posted - 11/14/2002 :  18:32:46  Show Profile
Bren,
That is one wicked cool looking 250 by the way<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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bren737
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Response Posted - 11/14/2002 :  19:08:34  Show Profile
Thanks, Matt. . . unfortunately the president of our neighborhood association (and resident 'Old Poot') wasn't as appreciative when she (the boat, that is) was sitting in my driveway all last week while I installed a stereo/CD player in her!<img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

Bren Peterson
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San Antonio, TX

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rcraig
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Response Posted - 11/14/2002 :  20:21:28  Show Profile
This thread just keep getting longer & better by the day !!

To Richard G on 'Sanity'
I think you would have had a valid argument to use 'Sweet Jane'
After all, don't both (boat & hooker) take your money, make you
feel good, and have no redeeming social value ???

To Don Peet 'osmepneo'
It has gotten back to me that Geez-O-Peet is some sort of mid-west
expression used in place of a swear word by those of tighter moral
fiber than the rest of us *%##!! sailing #@!**&'s.

Gotta go now......
Richard C C-25 'SOON to be named'

p.s. - From what I have heard, I am looking forward to renaming
'ceremony' (aka - drinking binge)


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Billamicasr
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Response Posted - 11/14/2002 :  21:31:56  Show Profile
I saw this on the stern of a huge sailboat in Tacome last summer during a visit. If it's obscene sorry. I haven't the foggiest idea what it means. Fun to say though...
BAWAKANA MO - He - He - He

Bill Lamica
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/14/2002 :  22:00:57  Show Profile
That brings up an interesting point on boat names. I remember reading somewhere(Chapman's?) that you should pick a boat name that can be reasonably understood over the VHF radio instead of some unintelligable gibberish. Can you picture the Coast Guard trying to hail this boat?



"BAWAKANA MO - He - He - He, BAWAKANA MO - He - He - He, BAWAKANA MO - He - He - He...this is the U.S. Coast Guard, over..."

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
C25 SR/FK
Lake Erie

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 11/15/2002 :  06:26:18  Show Profile
A friend from the club near NYC named his dink "RUTH 1:16," which says ". . .. Where you go I will go and where you stay I will stay."


Don Peet
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 11/15/2002 :  13:00:37  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
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To Don Peet 'osmepneo'
It has gotten back to me that Geez-O-Peet is some sort of mid-west
expression used in place of a swear word by those of tighter moral
fiber than the rest of us *%##!! sailing #@!**&'s.
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My Grandmother used to use that expression (still does actually) I would always ask her who Pete was...

I always thought Geeze o Pete is a derivation of the following and is used so as to not violate commandment 3...

<ul><li>Jesus Christ </li><li> For Christs Sake </li><li>For Pete's sake </li></ul>

Ergo you get Jeez o Pete.....

Oh, and yeah, it is a very midwestern expression


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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 11/15/2002 :  16:45:20  Show Profile
Many name searchers discover that they don't find the right name... the right name finds the boat.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224

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Randall
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Response Posted - 11/16/2002 :  20:31:13  Show Profile
When I get a new boat, I wait for months sometimes to see what name comes to fit her best. Our previous boats were Misty, Graciela, Evening Ctar and Fickadee. Misty was a Spirit 6.5 that I named after my best friend's daughter. I'm a cop and had a D.A.R.E. student named Graciela, and thought that was a perfect name for our Starwind 19. The Starwind 22 we owned later was named Evening Ctar after a childhood girlfriend who I learned had died of a heroin overdose. Fickadee was a Clipper 26 we owned when our daughter was two or three. She was just learning to speak, and anytime she saw something new that charmed or intrigued her she would exclaim "ooooh, a fickadee!!" The name stuck for the boat.

After four months of ownership, the name that feels best for our '79 TR/SK is "Kite". Over the years, I have frequently tried to describe the simple joys of sailing to non-sailors by saying that it's like flying a kite that you get to ride in. When folks at work ask me what I'm doing this weekend, I tell them I'm going to fly my kite. Additionally, as with John G's "Peregrine", a kite is a small predatory bird similar to a falcon. Since I hope to do some casual racing with Kite, the "small, predatory" part adds an additional dimension to the name.
When I was a kid, my Dad and I used to talk about sailing around the world someday in a boat named "Enchantress". My Dad died before he ever stepped aboard a sailboat. I make sure my wife, daughter (now eight) and I spend as much time as possible together on or in the water. And the name "Enchantress" is reserved for the bluewater boat I hope to own someday soon.

Randall




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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 11/17/2002 :  19:16:17  Show Profile
Ya, when we lived in the midwest I heard the term, Jees-o-Pete" but what hit me was the spelling of Peet, the same as my last name. Thought that was interesting (at least to me), and I'll now modify my comment that it was owned by a relative who was from the midwest!

Don Peet
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The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 11/17/2002 :  19:22:49  Show Profile
While I was in seminary several friends and I helped another student and her husband move their boat up the river for the winter. In order to make this move we had to go through a lock from the Chicago River and several bridges in the city. They open on schedule and the day was spent moving the boat and stopping and waiting for the next obstacle to open. While we waiting for the lock we tied up next to a 30-something racing machine named "ONESIMUS." Being good theology students and Biblical scholars our first thought was to the Bible and Paul's letter to Philemon (Ya, right) and we asked the people on the boat about the name. They said they got asked about frequently and when people asked they shared the story of Onesimus and how that related to Christian faith.



Don Peet
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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 11/18/2002 :  10:16:28  Show Profile
Hi gang,

Is the "p" silent in "Osmepneo"?

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 11/18/2002 :  11:23:59  Show Profile
P. and all:

You wrote:

<b>Is the "p" silent in "Osmepneo"?</b>

Yes, the "p" is silent, and technically, since it transliterated Greek (applying our alphabet to the Greek alphabet - the only way I had any chance of understanding Greek in seminary) the "O" is not captialized, so in writing it should appear osmepneo.

Thanks for asking

Don Peet
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The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 11/18/2002 :  23:46:26  Show Profile
Duane,
thank you for the links!, I will copy and save them this time!
Don, If I ever decide to rename a boat I will certainly take the advice of tradition and go through the fun rituals, I try not to mess with mother nature or the Gods! I guess it is a matter of choice and I prefere to sail with the blessings from the spirit of the sea.
Safe Sailing,
Steve



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