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hillerji
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Initially Posted - 12/10/2010 :  20:44:30  Show Profile
Hi all,

On the winter list was/is the transom trim piece that has UV degraded. I ordered the replacement from CD and the footnote does say 'some trimming may be necessary'. Well I can't conceive how I would trim what they sent me. It's the correct shape but it extends to high and trying to trim the nubs that are supposed to cover the rubrail ends just doesn't seem realistic.

Has anyone run into this 'little' detail?

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Jon

Jon

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1982 SR/FK
Thames Yacht Club
New London Ct.

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JoshMcCullock
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Response Posted - 12/10/2010 :  22:21:58  Show Profile  Visit JoshMcCullock's Homepage
Man, thats really discouraging. I have that piece in my cart to order as soon as we're done with our paint job. Our old piece is long gone too!

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 12/11/2010 :  11:23:05  Show Profile
I pulled mine off and filled the screw holes--it didn't look that bad... (Maybe Bruce disagrees.) If the seam is too unsightly, I'd fair it with something like Marine Tex and sand it smooth, wipe some gelcoat patch (from a tube) over it, sand that down with super-fine grit, and be done with it forever. Or, you could go cazy with some teak battens like somebody (Bill Holcomb?) did.

The plastic trim was a silly idea from the beginning.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 12/11/2010 :  12:55:18  Show Profile
I replaced mine so many years ago that I don't remember anything specific about it, except that, for some reason, it seemed problematic before I did it, but afterwards, it was no big deal at all. I don't remember what I used to trim it, but it was undoubtedly some kind of fine toothed saw, such as a hacksaw or coping saw.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 12/11/2010 :  15:53:00  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
Like steve, I replaced mine many years ago. As I recall, the part fit just right without having to trim.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 12/12/2010 :  08:42:44  Show Profile
Here's a photo of the transom "notch" for the tiller arm. It seems to be doing its job okay. It's like a saddle that covers the cutout, and trims the cockpit side and the aft side of the transom. Note how the end of the rubrail caps are attached.

Photo: May 2010

Detail of <i>Passage's</i> transom



While I don't have a problem with <i>Passage's</i> trim piece, if it were very distinctly discolored, perhaps a little strategic two-part poly painting would do the trick?

I realize this approach may not be appropriate for Jon's and Josh's boats.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 12/12/2010 :  10:06:07  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Voyager</i>
<br />Here's a photo of the transom "notch" for the tiller arm. It seems to be doing its job okay. It's like a saddle that covers the cutout, and trims the cockpit side and the aft side of the transom. Note how the end of the rubrail caps are attached... While I don't have a problem with <i>Passage's</i> trim piece...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's because you don't have one. The trim piece these guys are talking about is a plastic "frame" that covers the lower part of the joint between the cockpit molding (the "saddle" you refer to) and the hull. I removed it when it deteriorated and broke up, so what you have is the unadorned joint with a few screw holes filled in--all conveniently out of sight from inside the boat.

It might be a little bit "unseemly", but nothing like those U-bolts! Why do you have them, Bruce?

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JoshMcCullock
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Response Posted - 12/13/2010 :  14:26:23  Show Profile  Visit JoshMcCullock's Homepage
I was just thinking the same thing. I'd rather spend a bit more time on it now while we've got her all sanded down and skip the trim piece altogether. Although, CD says the new piece is UV resistant and won't degrade over time like the last one, I always err on the side of simplicity!

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islander
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Response Posted - 12/13/2010 :  14:44:36  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Why do you have them, Bruce? <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Oh No...Here we go again...

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Tom Gauntt
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Response Posted - 12/13/2010 :  14:47:59  Show Profile
Josh,

I replaced the transom trim piece last year. If you like simple, then order a new trim piece. If you like mixing epoxy, gel coat, and lots of sanding, then do it that way. Both ways are fine, one is really simple.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 12/13/2010 :  20:50:50  Show Profile
Hahahahahaha Scott. No comment on the U-bolts. My advice is "If it works, you know the rest.

Dave, thanks for removing the useless doo-dad. I have a piece of teak in the garage with nothing to do.....

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 12/14/2010 :  09:55:33  Show Profile
I ordered the trim piece several years ago from CD, and it didn't fit at all...trimming wasn't going to help a bit...

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JoshMcCullock
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Response Posted - 12/14/2010 :  21:12:19  Show Profile  Visit JoshMcCullock's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Tom Gauntt</i>
<br />Josh,

I replaced the transom trim piece last year. If you like simple, then order a new trim piece. If you like mixing epoxy, gel coat, and lots of sanding, then do it that way. Both ways are fine, one is really simple.
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touche

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 12/14/2010 :  22:11:57  Show Profile
The picture of Bruce's transom shows where I removed the trim and filled a few holes with some gelcoat patch. Period. Not elegant, but not bad for a transom where the aesthetics are already severely compromised by an outboard bracket and engine.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 12/15/2010 :  07:38:09  Show Profile
I did it once,it lasted a couple of years and nows needs it again. I'll pass and work on something that aids performance.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT
'83 C25 swing to wing #3936
Sunset Harbor Marine, Patchogue, N.Y.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 12/15/2010 :  11:09:14  Show Profile
I tossed mine on my '82, bought the new piece and still have it on a shelf. I should have done something to it like Dave did, I just left it tacky.



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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 12/15/2010 :  16:29:22  Show Profile
Passage didn't (and doesn't) look <i>that</i> tacky!

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 12/15/2010 :  17:39:22  Show Profile
Frank - what is that piece affixed to the gudgeons... a support for the mast, tarping? ? ?

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 12/15/2010 :  19:25:08  Show Profile
"mastup"
I had one at the front and back plus a plastic fence post in the middle for my tarp.



The one at the back was then used to raise the mast.


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65Roses
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Response Posted - 12/26/2010 :  11:39:17  Show Profile  Visit 65Roses's Homepage
Mine was destroyed by the sun and became very brittle. I simply used it as a pattern and made me a new one out of 5/16 white oak and finished it to match the tiller handle. Once I mounted it I simply put some marine silicon to seal it around the edges.

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