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DaveR
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Initially Posted - 03/11/2011 : 10:14:07

How tall of a structure would I need to house my 25 wing keel on a trailer?

Dave Robbins
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skybird
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Response Posted - 03/11/2011 : 10:48:14

Dave, my swingkeel on a trailer with straight axles, mast lashed down on top of pulpit and stern rail needs about 12' of clearance. I would probably look for 14', but 16' would give you some room to get around in the cockpit while in the building. We missed a turn on the way home when we went to pick up our boat and had to do a turnaround that involved a country underpass that looked more like a culvert and only had 13' clearance, hence my knowledge of how tall she is!

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/11/2011 : 11:00:42

We measured our (Fin) boat to be sure we were legal, and on a flatbed trailer, it came in right at 13'

Much of this will depend on your trailer though.

One of our design limitations in underground parking structures is that anyplace there is a grade transition - like between the slope of the driveway and teh garage slab - the rise of drop of an inch or two at teh hitch ball can have a very big effect at teh far end of the load, depending on where the fulcrum (wheels) falls.

Much of this is dependant on:
- the trailer design
- The transition between the garage floor and driveway
- Whether you keep the mast up top or not
- Teh design of the roof/ceiling of the garage

Without all the variables its hard to say. But for a ground to highest point measurement of the trailer sitting on teh flat - 13' is our number on our boat with teh mast sitting on top.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 03/11/2011 : 11:51:35

Thanks guys, just what I needed!

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/11/2011 : 19:17:26

I've heard the 13' number before too. You can always remove the mast and gain what I would guess to be 6" - 8" in clearance when going into the building.

I'll find out in late May when I pull my boat for the summer and put it in my boat stall. Hope it's no taller than 13 because that's the height of the doorway in my stall.

My trailer does not have straight axles so the boat sits lower in the trailer frame. Might make the difference.

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Response Posted - 03/12/2011 : 00:00:36

I am at 12' 6", so I consider it 13' too with a swing.

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Response Posted - 03/12/2011 : 05:00:50

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by skybird
 Dave, my swingkeel on a trailer with straight axles, mast lashed down on top of pulpit and stern rail needs about 12' of clearance. I would probably look for 14', but 16' would give you some room to get around in the cockpit while in the building. We missed a turn on the way home when we went to pick up our boat and had to do a turnaround that involved a country underpass that looked more like a culvert and only had 13' clearance, hence my knowledge of how tall she is!
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This underpass is the only way in to Newcastle Yacht Club near Toronto. Far larger boats than ours have squeezed under it... http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Newcastle,+Ontario&aq=1&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=32.760894,79.189453&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Newcastle,+Durham+Regional+Municipality,+Ontario&ll=43.907571,-78.587222&spn=0.017809,0.032873&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=43.907649,-78.584313&panoid=j-2h129RKXZQ9Fpv40q3iw&cbp=12,161.28,,0,4.1

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 03/12/2011 : 09:32:50

My wing, with mast resting on the pulpit, on a bunked Ideal trailer, is 12' from ground to top edge of the mast base. Add a couple of inches for the mast head, and steaming light and 12' 6" should be about right.

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Response Posted - 03/12/2011 : 21:41:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by GaryB
 

My trailer does not have straight axles so the boat sits lower in the trailer frame. Might make the difference.
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Gary, my trailer is apparently custom built in somebody's shop specifically for the boat, as the sail # is stamped into the steel on the trailer frame, but whoever did it used shortened mobile home axles, so there is no repairing any worn parts. I have priced 5200# axles with 4 and 6 inch drop to replace them. Surprisingly they are not that expensive (approx $700 for the pair in 4" drop, 1 with electric brakes) until you figure 5 new tires and wheels

to match the new axles. I probably will do it anyway sooner or later, because I want to sail at Canyon Lake as well as other places and need the reliability. I think it will be a more stable tow with the CG lowered 4" and it ought to float in 4" less water too

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Response Posted - 03/12/2011 : 21:50:22

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Prospector
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by skybird
 Dave, my swingkeel on a trailer with straight axles, mast lashed down on top of pulpit and stern rail needs about 12' of clearance. I would probably look for 14', but 16' would give you some room to get around in the cockpit while in the building. We missed a turn on the way home when we went to pick up our boat and had to do a turnaround that involved a country underpass that looked more like a culvert and only had 13' clearance, hence my knowledge of how tall she is!
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This underpass is the only way in to Newcastle Yacht Club near Toronto. Far larger boats than ours have squeezed under it... http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Newcastle,+Ontario&aq=1&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=32.760894,79.189453&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Newcastle,+Durham+Regional+Municipality,+Ontario&ll=43.907571,-78.587222&spn=0.017809,0.032873&t=h&z=15&layer=c&cbll=43.907649,-78.584313&panoid=j-2h129RKXZQ9Fpv40q3iw&cbp=12,161.28,,0,4.1
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Chris, that looks pretty familiar except the one i squeezed through was in New Mexico, all poured concrete and only 1 lane! I eased forward while my admiral watched til we could tell it was OK.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/13/2011 : 06:14:07

So maybe more like this one - we get to extract 3 or 4 trucks a year here... http://tinyurl.com/456oabg , but its not an access to a yacht club. 3.2m = 10'-6", and 4.3m = 14'- 1".

A truck can make it through here ten times, but not be on centre the next time, and get wedged in. if you go under the bridge on streetwiew and look up, you can see where the concrete has been scored by the trailers.

Both of these bridges are in trouble structurally, but have been deemed historically significant, so we are hamstrung on improving them.

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skybird
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Response Posted - 03/13/2011 : 11:03:32

Yep, pretty much like that minus the paved road under it! At least it was the same height all the way across.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/13/2011 : 12:16:54

The maps show that road as a Provincial (State) Highway so it takes some pretty good traffic, much of it out-of-towners who aren't aware of teh underpass. I am sure there have been more than a few insurance claims on RV's that didn't realize what they were coming up on.

I guess the lesson here is that if you are travelling with a load that is oversize, it may be worthwhile to put in a call to the road authority and make sure your route is going to be OK. Both of these underpasses meet minimum requirements in terms of dimensions, but if you were trying to squeak through without getting an oversize load permit, I am sure the outfall would be bad.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2011 : 16:01:33

Richard,

Let me know when you get ready to go to Canyon and I'll try to meet you there with Andiamo. I was toying with moving her up to Canyon permanently later this year but with gas prices going up and a 3 hour drive each way I'm backing away from that idea.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2011 : 20:43:49

Gary,we usually get to spend a week there sometime in July. I will let you know if it works out. If This Side Up is out to play I bet we will get royally spanked!

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/14/2011 : 02:22:47

No doubt about it!

We usually spend part of a week in mid to late July in New Braunsfel(Schlitterbahn) and the other part at Lake Travis.

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Inspiration
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Response Posted - 03/15/2011 : 15:18:08

Dave

My shop has a 16 foot high ceiling with a 14' door and my wing keel on the trailer clears it with a couple of feet to spare.

Ted

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skybird
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Response Posted - 03/15/2011 : 19:32:27

Ted, I want a shop that a door like that would fit in!!

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