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Anyone looking for a Harken roller furler?

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OJ
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Initially Posted - 05/06/2011 : 05:22:33

This is a demo unit which EXCLUDES the extrusions - but they can be purchased separately:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Harken-Mark-III-Unit-0-Roller-Furling-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a105ae780QQitemZ180663019392QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGear

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dflynnatc
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Response Posted - 05/06/2011 : 13:14:39

Yes, but still unsure of what model I would require.... for a 25' SR this would be the one?

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Response Posted - 05/06/2011 : 13:39:37

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dflynnatc
 Yes, but still unsure of what model I would require.... for a 25' SR this would be the one?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Yes, Unit 0 is the exact model for a C25. Keep in mind you will need to order a set of extrusions from a Harken dealer, ~$600 + shipping. You will also need to have your forestay modified. It's a bit involved - particularly for the mechanically un-inclined.

Here's a Unit 0 Mark IV manual for a look-see.

http://www.harken.com/pdf/4416.pdf

Good luck!

Edited by - OJ on 05/06/2011 13:44:07

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Response Posted - 05/06/2011 : 19:07:31

dennis flynn
i have a harken OOAL model.for my tall rig.

i don't know if they changed to number.

also, the furler and metal section costs are approaching what you can buy a new one from west marine.

if you have a store you can order it there and pay noi shipping costs.

just my 2 cents worth

dave holtgrave
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hard and dry in my driveway near flooded carlyle lake in southern illinois

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Response Posted - 05/06/2011 : 20:36:30

OOAL is the correct model for C25. I bought my Mark IV last year during the boat show and saved about $350 - $400 at Defender.

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Response Posted - 05/07/2011 : 05:31:37

The CDI furler, FF4 complete with ball bearing upgrade, is $652 at The Sail Warehouse, and with a 135 genoa the package is about $1,360, with 150 genoa package about $1,460. Should slip over your existing headstay. Their Harken MK IV #0 looks like about $1,200, excluding sail. They do say that the MK IV can use your existing headstay and turnbuckle but usually requires cutting and shortening the headstay due to the added length of the connecting toggle at the bottom.

The MK IV does look interesting, has a double groove foil and a removable drum for the serious racer. IIRC the MK III #00 has a non-removable drum and does not require shortening the headstay.

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Response Posted - 05/07/2011 : 06:34:28

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by GaryB
 OOAL is the correct model for C25. I bought my Mark IV last year during the boat show and saved about $350 - $400 at Defender.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">The 00 and 0 work on the C25. The 0 has most of the features of the OO. Depending on your model year, the 00 is few inches too short for a tall rig - but you can order an additional extrusion.

Edited by - OJ on 05/07/2011 06:36:50

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Response Posted - 05/07/2011 : 06:42:01

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dmpilc
 . . . the MK III #00 has a non-removable drum and does not require shortening the headstay.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Unless you already have a Stay Lok, you must cut the headstay in order to slide on the foil or extrusion connectors.

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Response Posted - 05/07/2011 : 06:46:07

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dave holtgrave
 . . . if you have a store you can order it there and pay noi shipping costs . . . <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yep, excellent point Dave. Too bad I didn't discover this until after I purchaesed items from a rigger,

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Response Posted - 05/07/2011 : 07:14:05

Here's a 00A on ebay - for twice the price - also without extrusions. It's been listed for quite a while so maybe the seller will start entertaining realistic offers . . .

Edited by - OJ on 05/07/2011 07:15:36

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Response Posted - 05/09/2011 : 09:52:46

Thank you all for taking the time for responses.... lot of new verbage to go through. It seems a little more daunting at this time than maybe I'm ready for (entering 2nd season). The CDI seems to be a better "value"; is there a performance difference between them? or is it a Ford/Chevy analogy.

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Response Posted - 05/09/2011 : 11:41:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dflynnatc
 The CDI seems to be a better "value"; is there a performance difference between them? or is it a Ford/Chevy analogy.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

The CDI is "cheaper" but (disclaimer alert, I have a Harken) but the Harken may be a better value. Think of it more like a Chevy/Cadillac analogy.

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Response Posted - 05/09/2011 : 11:53:38

I don't have a furler, but from my reading of ads, reviews, and this Forum, my take is that the CDI is a good furler for the sailor who wants to cruise, and maybe occasionally race in local club races. Sail changes are more difficult with the CDI than the Harken. It uses its own halyard, so you will need to attach a messenger line to it when you drop sail. It also frees up your jib halyard for other uses. So, perhaps that puts it in the Chevy category. The Harken MK IV is more expensive but has features a racer might want, such as a twin groove foil and a drum that can be removed to make it easier to change headsails.
Your purchase will depend a lot on the type of sailing you do. If you do buy the CDI FF4, be sure to get the ball bearing option. Others say you will kick yourself later if you don't.

Edited by - dmpilc on 05/09/2011 11:55:11

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Response Posted - 05/09/2011 : 13:42:19

I guess we place a furler in the Long Term category . . . we will be using our current boat for the next 10 years - at least.

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Response Posted - 05/11/2011 : 03:49:42

Ah...Good Visual. Thanks.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dflynnatc
 The CDI seems to be a better "value"; is there a performance difference between them? or is it a Ford/Chevy analogy.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

The CDI is "cheaper" but (disclaimer alert, I have a Harken) but the Harken may be a better value. Think of it more like a Chevy/Cadillac analogy.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

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