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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 05/13/2011 :  00:02:04  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=13592040& sid=81

These guys were in frigid water for about 45 minutes and survived because they had their vests on and told someone when to expect them back. Good for the vice commodore for taking the initiative to go looking for them, but without their vests they'd likely have had no chance after the first dunking.
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britinusa
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Response Posted - 05/13/2011 :  05:30:08  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
You got that right Dave!
Even though we sail in sunny SoFla, it's surprising how quickly things get tough in the water outside of the summer months.

Often stated here. Our rule is 'If the boat is not tied up, then onboard you wear your life jacket' So we don ours when I move up fwd to pull the anchor!

As we head out of the looooooong channel from the boat ramps to the Bay, we're wearing our Autoinflate PFD's while being passed by much smaller boats with half a dozen people and not a life jacket in sight.

The USCG, Marine Patrol, Wildlife boats, etc. always wear their jackets, and they always nod to us as we pass which is kinda comforting.

Paul
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redviking
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Response Posted - 05/13/2011 :  06:50:28  Show Profile
Little boats scare me now! When I was a kid in SoCal, we rented those things and went out. Quite tender. Now I won't even step foot on anything that isn't big enough or well found enough to handle the conditions.

<b><i>Tenuta told WLS that "in the blink of an eye we were over" into the frigid water, and that the sailboat flipped at least eight times. </i> </b>

I met the guy who designed the Flicka the other day. Now that is a 20 foot boat!

sten
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 05/13/2011 :  07:14:16  Show Profile
I agree that PFD's should always be warn. Having said that, these guys are candidates for a Darwin Award. The t-storms they got caught in were forecasted. They knew the water temperature. They were in a 19' boat. They just didn't want Peter to see his 63rd birthday. I wonder if they might have been enjoying their "monthly minimum" at the yacht club beforehand.

Stupid.

Edit to add the question: When did they call the Coasties?
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redviking
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Response Posted - 05/13/2011 :  07:37:01  Show Profile
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-woman-rescues-husband-friends-from-capsized-boat-20110511,0,6586805.story

hmmmm... drop sail...

sten
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 05/13/2011 :  10:49:16  Show Profile
Looks like a Rhodes 19, which is a relatively seaworthy boat for 19'... The O'Day Mariner was based on the same hull. It's no Flicka, to be sure, but the 440 lb. cast iron bulb keel is a third of its displacement--not bad for a little daysailer. But IIRC it's an open bilge--not self-bailing. From the look of things, these guys were "purists"--no outboard or bracket to put it on. They needed some canvas to get home and may have been hit by 50+ kt. gusts and 6+' vertical seas. I know L. Michigan well--it can be really scary, with very few places to hide. If this was forecast, they were morons.
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/13/2011 :  11:46:44  Show Profile
It's not, "Here's why you wear your PDF" it's more like "Here's what happens when you don't heed a forecast".
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