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kentwm
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Initially Posted - 06/13/2011 :  12:16:10  Show Profile
I have a Mariner 9.9 OB... the tilt on it gets stuck and I am unable to tilt it up out of the water even when the tilt lock is in the unlock position.

Does anyone have and suggestions/ideas on what might be causing it to get stuck?

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Kent
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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  14:03:57  Show Profile
Not sure about the Mariner but my Tohatsu will only lift when the shift lever is shifted to "forward". It locks in neutral and reverse.

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kentwm
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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  14:26:49  Show Profile
hmmm... maybe I should read my owners manual.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  15:57:50  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by kentwm</i>
<br />hmmm... maybe I should read my owners manual.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">From one guy to another - only as a last resort . . .

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  17:18:42  Show Profile
Hey Kent,

Not sure what you mean by stuck so don't take offense to this. Have you greased the shaft the motor tilts on?

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  19:42:20  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by GaryB</i>
<br />Hey Kent,

Not sure what you mean by stuck so don't take offense to this. Have you greased the shaft the motor tilts on?
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Some times the motor will tilt freely when I put the locking lever in the unlock position so I can raise it out of the water... most of the time, even when the lock lever is in the unlock position, the motor wont budge from the down position.

I think it is likely something like the first reply I got where I don't have something in the correct position.

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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  19:53:32  Show Profile
When I was a teenager we had a 50 HP Mercury outboard and it would not tilt up unless it was in forward as Joe mentioned above. Being that Mariner is or was manufactured by Mercury it seems reasonable that it would be the same.

Maybe the motor titled up easily you had inadvertently left it in gear when coming into the dock?


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Response Posted - 06/13/2011 :  20:20:45  Show Profile
Kent,

Go to section 5 here --&gt;&gt; http://1manual.com/Mercury%20manuals/Service%20Manual%20PDFs/FourStroke/856159r1/5.pdf and review the procedure for setting the reverse lock link rod installation and adjustment.

Scrolling down to Page 5-17 it states:

25. Check reverse lock operation as follows:
• Forward Gear – Reverse lock fully released. <font color="red">Outboard <b><font color="blue">will</font id="blue"></b> tilt up</font id="red">.
• Neutral – Reverse lock engaged. <font color="red">Outboard will not tilt up</font id="red">.
• Reverse Gear – Reverse lock fully engaged. <font color="red">Outboard will not tilt up</font id="red">.

Could be the linkage is out of adjustment.

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kentwm
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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  01:14:51  Show Profile
It is probably that I have the engine in neutral... I only try to title it up after comming into the slip and I always put it in neutral befor shutting it off. I will have to stop by the boat one afternoon and try it.

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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  06:11:31  Show Profile
I know nothing about a Mercury..

but anyhoo... Johnson / Evinrude design..

A levered assembly on the mid area would hook onto the bracket and a spring would pull it up on one side and down on the other and release the engine so it could pop up should you hit something. With it in reverse the linkage pull the hook up and it would keep the engine from popping up out of the water. Changing the gear to forward would disengage the linkage and the spring would lever the assembly up/down and with age the spring would get weak and fail. You then could not get the engine up. We would disengage the linkage and the engine would always be able to pop up. In reverse we would have to lean on the engine to keep it down.

you could reach down and push the hook down/loose if you were about to bring the engine up. You could grease the assembly.

Your experience could vary.

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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  06:56:46  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by OJ</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by kentwm</i>
<br />hmmm... maybe I should read my owners manual.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">From one guy to another - only as a last resort . . .
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And make sure nobody sees you. If you do get caught reading the instructions, tell them you were verifying what you already knew.

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cks
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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  07:47:50  Show Profile
On my mercury 9.9, it will only tilt up in "forward".

It's a common oversight made by folks (so I'm told).

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Response Posted - 06/14/2011 :  14:26:51  Show Profile
Probably not applicable to your situation but I've had trouble tilting my Honda 8 on my 250, wouldn't tilt up enough to get the prop out of the water. I found that the lifting handle on the motor was the problem, had to put 1" spacers under the mount to raise the motor up so the handle would clear the well, if that makes sense.

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Response Posted - 06/15/2011 :  07:17:10  Show Profile
My Nissan 9.8 tilts up in neutral or forward. I frequently coast into the slip with the engine running and in neutral. After it funs out of gas and stops, and I put away the boat, I'll tilt it up to the shallow water position, which gets the prop out of the water.

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Response Posted - 06/16/2011 :  18:35:59  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redeye</i>
<br />I know nothing about a Mercury..

but anyhoo... Johnson / Evinrude design..

A levered assembly on the mid area would hook onto the bracket and a spring would pull it up on one side and down on the other and release the engine so it could pop up should you hit something. With it in reverse the linkage pull the hook up and it would keep the engine from popping up out of the water. Changing the gear to forward would disengage the linkage and the spring would lever the assembly up/down and with age the spring would get weak and fail. You then could not get the engine up. We would disengage the linkage and the engine would always be able to pop up. In reverse we would have to lean on the engine to keep it down.

you could reach down and push the hook down/loose if you were about to bring the engine up. You could grease the assembly.

Your experience could vary.
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Unless its MY Evinrude. Then it tilts whenever it damn well pleases.

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Response Posted - 06/17/2011 :  07:04:29  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by cks</i>
<br />On my mercury 9.9, it will only tilt up in "forward".

It's a common oversight made by folks (so I'm told).
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I think mine tilts in any gear but not in neutral. I'll have to see if forward or reverse makes a difference.

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Response Posted - 06/17/2011 :  20:51:33  Show Profile
Well guess what... putting the motor in forward alowed meto tilt the motor out of the water... well that solves a problem that has been bothering me for 6 months.

But wouldn't ya know it... tonight we could not get the motor started... looks like tomorrow is a mess with the motor day.

Thanks for the imput everyone.

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Response Posted - 06/19/2011 :  11:15:53  Show Profile
I have a Mariner 8HP 2 stroke. If it is similar to your 9.9hp, on the back side of the motor there is an adjustment. There is an arch shaped lever that is adjusted by a set screw and stopper on a small shaft. To raise your motor, reach back and lift up on that lever while you begin to tilt the motor. It will then release and you should be able to tilt it. You will need to tweak the setting of the stopper on the shaft until you can freely tilt the motor.

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