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Rlequerica
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Initially Posted - 07/18/2011 : 17:42:17

Has anybody assembled two catalina 25 into a catamaran for live aboard? I am interested in doing so and would appreciate any previous experience.
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Renzo
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Response Posted - 07/18/2011 : 18:12:55

I Can't offer any help, But I LIKE the way you think!!!

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Rlequerica
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Response Posted - 07/18/2011 : 18:26:11

came on...please help me

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 07/18/2011 : 19:31:00

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Rlequerica
 Has anybody assembled two catalina 25 into a catamaran for live aboard?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I'll go out on a limb here... No.

Beyond that, the questions are endless... How would you connect the two hulls? What sort of rig, and how would it be done? Would you actually sail it, or just live on it? If sail, on what waters? Catamarans have to handle some significant and unique stresses from seas. Unless you engage (or are) a marine architect, I doubt you could get liability insurance, which means you shouldn't take anyone else sailing with you, and you won't be able to keep her in a marina.

As for sailing, it'll be a 2-legged pig. The hulls will be too beamy and heavy. The structures required will add considerable weight.

In short, there are reasons for the prices of catamarans compared to monohulls, and buying and suitably connecting two monohulls will probably (or almost certainly) exceed the cost of buying a cat.

Curmudgeon out.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 07/18/2011 19:45:15

Dave5041
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Response Posted - 07/18/2011 : 20:44:46

Kind of the worst of both worlds. Buy an old C-30 for the price of two 25's and have more livable space.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 07/19/2011 : 04:20:51

Forget all that work, just buy this, $35K:

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1984/Gemini-3000-2346394/Pasadena/MD/United-States

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OJ
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Response Posted - 07/19/2011 : 06:15:17

AMBITIOUS!!!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 07/19/2011 : 07:59:54

Davy - that looks like two MacGregors... I'd consider looking at this one....because after it is all said and done it is about what you'd spend to slap two 25's together anyway. Plus the transport would be interesting

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2000/Robertson-%26-Caine-Leopard-38-2257779/Gocek/Turkey

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 07/19/2011 : 08:07:44

That's funny, it does look like two Macgregors! You could almost get a new Gemini for the price of that Leopard. Although I don't think I want to cross the ocean in it.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 07/19/2011 : 08:25:11

Monohulls depend on ballast and keels for stability, and multihulls depend on their form (widely separated hulls or pontoons) for stability. Multihulls are fast primarily because they are light in weight and they have much less wetted surface than monohulls. Using two C25s in tandem would make an excessively heavy, slow mutlihull, unless your plan is to completely remove the keels and ballast, but that would still leave you with a multihull with two uncharacteristically fat hulls, and the hulls alone would be way too heavy for a multihull, because for a 25' boat, the C25 is rather heavily built.

If you want an inexpensive liveaboard boat with somewhat comfortable accommodations, you'd be better off to mount an Airstream trailer on a flat hull. If you want a boat that can leave the dock and sail, I can't see any way that two C25s in tandem will provide a satisfactory sailing performance.

There's a big Gemini in my marina that the owner and his wife sail to Maine and back every year, so I assume it performs reasonably well for them. (I love the boat when it's on the hard, because I park my Harley under it, between the pontoons, and it makes a great garage!)

Edited by - Steve Milby on 07/19/2011 08:30:37

dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/19/2011 : 08:29:02

One of those Gemini 3000 rudders is just about what one of our forum members who has a "skinny water in the channel" problem needs, i.e. a vertically retractable rudder. Think it would work on a C-25?
Well, maybe not, the bracket would need to be modified to accept the tiller so the rudder could moved independently of the tiller.

Edited by - dmpilc on 07/19/2011 08:38:35

MattL
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Response Posted - 07/19/2011 : 15:54:04

OK, last year for 4th of July my family and I tied up between a Cat 22 and a Merrit making a nice trimarian. We had the G and T, one of the other boats had beer, and the thrid the chips etc. I don't remember how many sails we had up at the start but found that one side would block the wind going to the other boats. We there fore very efficiently had sails up on just one boat. a great time was had by all.
I did meet a fellow that lived on his Cat 25 at Lake Don Pedro. He kept the pop top up and shaired living space with his signficant other and her power boat that was equally loaded. I seem to remember that to sail he would have to transfer stuff to the power boat.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 07/20/2011 : 05:04:20

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Steve Milby
(I love the boat when it's on the hard, because I park my Harley under it, between the pontoons, and it makes a great garage!)
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Steve - I would have never pegged you for as a bike guy.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 07/20/2011 : 06:49:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ChampippleSteve - I would have never pegged you for as a bike guy.
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You should see me when I'm wearing my black doorag with white skulls on it that says "Ride to live - Live to Ride! I've been thinking about getting a silver-gray, pin-on pony tail hairpiece, to complete my costume.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 07/20/2011 : 08:39:53

sten

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glen
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Response Posted - 07/20/2011 : 09:59:56

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Rlequerica
 Has anybody assembled two catalina 25 into a catamaran for live aboard?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I'll go out on a limb here... No.

Beyond that, the questions are endless... How would you connect the two hulls? Curmudgeon out.
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Gorilla tape

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pfduffy
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Response Posted - 07/20/2011 : 10:22:50

I love the fact that the "vessel" in Sten's post has bumpers on what I guess is the port side. You wouldn't want to scratch that baby!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 07/20/2011 : 12:31:34

here is a hybrid C-25 and Macrgregor 26 Catamaran...last weekend...

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OJ
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Response Posted - 07/20/2011 : 14:25:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redviking

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">. . . and the crow's nest!

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