Association Forum - Fuel Cost sail vs. power

Assn Members Area · Join

Home.

Association Forum

Ships Store

Cruising

Racing

Technical Tips

Photo Gallery - New

Boat Search - Updated

Manuals & Brochures

Swap Meet

Links

Officer Flag Line & Staff

Bylaws & Constitution

Members Area

Join the Association

Notice:
The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.

Association Forum

Username:	Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

All Forums

Catalina/Capri 25/250 Sailor's Forums

General Sailing Forum

Fuel Cost sail vs. power

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Author

Topic

redeye
Master Marine Consultant

Member Avatar

3477 Posts

Initially Posted - 07/26/2011 : 10:50:00

Thought yall get a kick out of this. We were gonna sell our power boat but we kept it.. 40 gallon tank on the front, 30 gals on the rear. 70 gallons and lookin at $5 a gallon . Fill up is $350.. Range 180 miles. 225 hp Evinrude Oceanpro 2 cycle = 2.5 miles per gallon.

That 6hp Sailmaster is lookin better every day!

All Hail the Sail!

Ray in Atlanta, Ga.
"Lee Key" '84 Catalina 25
Standard Rig / Fin Keel

Edited by - on

Davy J
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1511 Posts

Response Posted - 07/26/2011 : 14:00:37

My power boat holds 87 gallons. Paid 4.95 a gallon for non-ethanol fuel at the marina on Sunday. But crossing Tampa Bay at 33 knots cruise speed has it's advantages...

It's nice to have the choice..

Edited by - on

piseas
Former Treasurer

Members Avatar

USA
2017 Posts

Response Posted - 07/26/2011 : 15:30:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redeye
 We were gonna sell our power boat but we kept it.. 40 gallon tank on the front, 30 gals on the rear. 70 gallons and lookin at $5 a gallon . Fill up is $350.. Range 180 miles. 225 hp Evinrude Oceanpro 2 cycle = 2.5 miles per gallon.
That 6hp Sailmaster is lookin better every day!
All Hail the Sail!
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Sorry but what did I miss? Why didn't you see the power boat? Or were you gonna put the 6hp on the powerboat?

and sell the 225.
Steve A
PS Dave re the speed advantage, have you looked at the McGregor 26x?

Edited by - on

Stinkpotter
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Djibouti
9087 Posts

Response Posted - 07/26/2011 : 15:59:33

110 gallons... 3.5 - 4 mpg (Honda 225 4-stroke)... Gets to my "free" slip at my condo (Passage couldn't) and gives me more options with my very busy lady (a realtor). Sleeps 2, parties 10. The gas is cheaper than the marina was.

Life's a compromise.

Edited by - on

Davy J
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1511 Posts

Response Posted - 07/26/2011 : 16:01:46

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">PS Dave re the speed advantage, have you looked at the McGregor 26x?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's not a very good sailboat....and has the distinction of being not a good power boat as well.....

Edited by - on

Stinkpotter
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Djibouti
9087 Posts

Response Posted - 07/26/2011 : 18:08:27

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Davy J
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">PS Dave re the speed advantage, have you looked at the McGregor 26x?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's not a very good sailboat....and has the distinction of being not a good power boat as well.....

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...pushed by a 50hp outboard--not a 9.9. And it's about the goofiest looking thing I've seen on the water.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 07/26/2011 18:10:09

bigelowp
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
1797 Posts

Response Posted - 07/26/2011 : 19:29:37

Having a fleet that includes both power and sail, and mindful of what Vanderbilt said "if you have to ask the price . . . ." At times speed rules, other times serenity is desired, such is life!

Edited by - bigelowp on 07/26/2011 19:30:46

OJ
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

USA
4382 Posts

Response Posted - 07/26/2011 : 19:36:46

I guess it's about objective and priority.

Our objective on the water is quiet and relaxation . . . with minimal impact to the environment and not being in a rush to get somewhere

Of course if we were on a larger body of water speed might become a priority and perhaps even power verses sail - but certainly not at $5 a gallon! We've all witnessed the BIG power boats that rarely or never leave the dock.

Edited by - OJ on 07/26/2011 19:41:26

Tomas Kruska
Admiral

Members Avatar

Czech Republic
522 Posts

Response Posted - 07/27/2011 : 00:34:23

You lucky, its about $7.8/galon here, not even trying to mention the gas prices in Norway $9.45/galon.

I hail the sail and inboard diesel

Edited by - Tomas Kruska on 07/27/2011 00:35:06

redeye
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

3477 Posts

Response Posted - 07/27/2011 : 04:42:15

<< The gas is cheaper than the marina was. >>

Yepper.. cheaper than staying in a hotel and lots more fun...

Edited by - redeye on 07/27/2011 05:31:18

Stinkpotter
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Djibouti
9087 Posts

Response Posted - 07/27/2011 : 16:26:00

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by OJ
 Of course if we were on a larger body of water speed might become a priority and perhaps even power verses sail...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Yup--the distinations from here are limitless... The time to get there and back is definitely limited. Once there (in a quarter of the time), we can really relax--on the hook, ashore or just meandering in the boat.

BTW, most cruising sailors I know will admit that when actually going someplace, they end up under power 70-80% of the time--with maybe double my mpgs at a quarter of the speed.

I know, I know... "On a sailboat, you're already there." (...except when you're actually not.)

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 07/27/2011 : 17:15:42

Powerboaters in my marina are either sitting at the docks all day or motoring a very short distance to the local anchorage, then sitting around all day. I think I'd have more fun sitting on a park bench feeding the pigeons.

Edited by - dlucier on 07/27/2011 18:36:31

JeanAndre
Navigator

Members Avatar

USA
224 Posts

Response Posted - 07/27/2011 : 18:08:35

Hi all,
I am teaching a few ASA classes up here in Traverse City, MI.
Yesterday I saw a 42 Cigarette powerboat sitting on the slip next to the Catalina 309 I am teaching. This morning as soon is was turned on, the rumble was something of another world...
Boy I bet that triple 500Hp slurps some gas....

I am a sail lover but I wouldn´t mind having one these available for an occasional run to other side of the lake...

Cheers

Edited by - on

At Ease
Admiral

Members Avatar

672 Posts

Response Posted - 07/28/2011 : 14:46:17

The reason we are selling our Catalina 320 (it's on the "Swap Meet" thread) is that we got a motor home. The D/W says we'll be spending our summers in the mountains rather than on the lake. The MH has a 125 gallon tank (diesel) and gets around 8 mpg.

Edited by - on

Stinkpotter
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Djibouti
9087 Posts

Response Posted - 07/28/2011 : 20:39:27

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by At Ease
 ..The MH has a 125 gallon tank (diesel) and gets around 8 mpg.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Hey, that's double mine, undoubtedly with more room! But it probably can't park by Napatree Point or Ram Island only a few miles away, so I'm sticking with what I've got.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 07/28/2011 21:01:53

delliottg
Former Mainsheet C250 Tech Editor

Members Avatar

USA
4479 Posts

Response Posted - 07/29/2011 : 09:30:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">...pushed by a 50hp outboard--not a 9.9. And it's about the goofiest looking thing I've seen on the water.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

We're across the finger pier from one with a 70hp OB. He drives it like a car when maneuvering into and out of their slip. I think they actually do sail it, but they spend a lot of time on the iron jenny as well.

Did you know their masts rotate? I was looking at their boat last weekend and noticed that their spreaders looked "bent", but in a bad way, like they'd been knocked to one side somehow. Then I looked at the base of the mast, and noticed that the extrusion was similarly "bent", and that's when I realized that the mast rotates, just like the one on my old catamaran did, it just didn't have any spreaders.

Edited by - on

Tomas Kruska
Admiral

Members Avatar

Czech Republic
522 Posts

Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 03:30:53

Do you want to live abroad C25? Here you can:

http://keys.craigslist.org/boa/2516616589.html

I don't want to comment if its for reasonable price or not

Edited by - Tomas Kruska on 08/01/2011 03:33:57

redeye
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

3477 Posts

Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 04:22:44

I heard some guys talkin last week about our slip fees at Aqualand once being $365 a year. A dollar a day. Now they say they are paying excessive rates for the exact same thing.

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 05:35:58

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Tomas Kruska
 Do you want to live abroad C25? Here you can:

http://keys.craigslist.org/boa/2516616589.html

I don't want to comment if its for reasonable price or not

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Something appears amiss with the furler. The drum is up pretty high!

Edited by - on

Stinkpotter
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Djibouti
9087 Posts

Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 06:00:39

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 Something appears amiss...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...in general.

Edited by - on

redeye
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

3477 Posts

Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 06:53:16

Yepper.. I'll be happy to rent my boat to buy at $500 a month...

Anyone.. anyone..

Edited by - on

Dave5041
Former Mainsheet Editor

Members Avatar

USA
3758 Posts

Response Posted - 08/01/2011 : 17:51:59

You have to move it to the keys first.

Edited by - on

Topic

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Jump To:

Association Forum

Notice: The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.