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Midships
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Initially Posted - 08/01/2011 :  08:12:31  Show Profile
So, I just brought my catalina 250 w/ centerboard(not wing keel) home from NJ. It was a 16 hour journey, now I'm wondering about some of the rigging.

<b>First</b>
The boom topping lift(the line that goes from the stern of the boom to the top of the mast, heads down the mast and finally comes out of the stbd side of the boom) comes out of the stbd side of the boom. When I first got the boat, this line came out of boom and just went through a plastic type of lock. Is this the way it is supposed to be rigged?

<b>Second</b>
In the forward part of the cabin under the v-berth, there is a tank. What is the tank for?

<b>Third</b>
Is it possible to overload the water ballast system? To what depth should the vessel be lowered to?
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 :  08:38:00  Show Profile
The topping lift is rigged that way to make it adjustable and yes, it comes out of the boom near the front and is secured by the jam cleat (or whetever it's called) just aft of the opening. Mine doesn't secure very well in that cleat and I tie it off further aft on a horn cleat on the boom that was originally intended for my lazyjacks.

The tank under the v-berth is the fresh water tank. The fill opening is under the anchor locker cover on the port side. I've filled mine every spring only to empty it every fall. This year, I didn't fill it. The down side with that is that I'mm mising the weight in the front since our boats tend to ride high at the bow. So high, in fact, that many have additional ballast in various forms under the v. I have 3 -- 40# bags of landscape rock.

I have a wing keel so I can only repeat what I've read here regarding the ballast tank. It <b><i>must be completely full.</i></b> The reason is that the ballast will shift if it isn't. That's a good way to get knocked down and not recover when the ballast is allowed to shift to leeward. So, fill your tank completely.

Where's your boat? You'll notice that a lot of us put that kind of information in our signature blocks. Makes it easier to answer questions sometimes.
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Midships
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 :  09:03:35  Show Profile
How would I create a signature on the bottom of my posts?
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 :  11:52:36  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Just edit your profile to include a signature.

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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 :  12:27:37  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
John, let me first apologize for my post, I dont mean to hyjack. Russell, I just bought a new Honda 8 XL which I mount in the well. It seems to me there is at least 4+ inches between water and anti-ventilation plate. But it just does not seem adequate as I do ocean sailing. I have looked at others photos who have used a motor mount and my water line seems to be same as those but no where near David G's 1.6'!
John, you mentioned having several bags of rock in bow which I as well have. I am now just wondering if I remove all or several bags, I will add several inches in the stern, hence lowering the motor even lower but boat ride higher.
I am concerned with this as my mechanic questioned the water line height may have caused the damage to my lower unit which did additional damage. The motor was only 6yrs old and I had it serviced every year. The repair would have been about 1/2 cost of new one. I obviously opted to new.
This weekend, I plan to remove a few bags or the rock and see what happens.
Steve A
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 :  13:36:28  Show Profile
Steve, I responded in a new thread. http://catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23766#top
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 :  15:30:40  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
John (Midships),
you mention that the topping lift comes out the side of the mast.

That is different to my rig (2005 WB C250)

On our boat, the top of the topping lift is fixed to the outmost/aft pin in the mast head.
The lower end of the topping lift has a snap shackle.
The height of the aft end of the boom is adjusted by a line that connects to that snap shackle, down to the outer block in the aft end of the boom port side. It then travels inside the boom to the a block inside the boom and then heads back aft and out through a hole in the boom near the Vang shackle. The line finally passes through a jamb cleat with the tail of the line hanging down.
To adjust the height of the aft end of the boom, we ease the mainsheet and vang, then tighten the topping lift by pulling on that tail, or ease it and then tighten up on the vang and mainsheet.

That is... our topping lift does not travel inside the mast at all.

Paul
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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/01/2011 :  18:53:35  Show Profile
Missed that entirely, Paul. Mine is rigged as paul described.
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frogger
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Response Posted - 08/30/2011 :  17:04:40  Show Profile
Mine is also rigged as Paul described, 2000 WK C250
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Response Posted - 08/30/2011 :  19:29:03  Show Profile
I'll only reinforce John Russell's remark about the ballast tank. A partially-filled tank actually destabilizes the boat and is worse than no ballast at all. If you've ever been in a partially swamped boat, you might recall how it literally <i>wanted</i> to capsize as water sloshed to the low side. That's a partially filled ballast tank.
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