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OJ
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Initially Posted - 09/14/2011 : 09:58:23

After we motored out and raised our sails last week we discovered the Yamaha 9.9 4-stroke wouldn't tilt (wouldn't even budge!)

Nothing appears to be out of place. The only lever I know of is designed to lock it in the tilt position.

Anyone else ever experience this?

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Response Posted - 09/14/2011 : 10:02:15

put it in gear. I had the same problem with my Mariner 9.9 and posted here. After several helpful suggestions the simple solution was to put the motor in F gear and it tilted w/o issue. I always put the motor in N to turn it off so wasn't able to tilt it until putting it back into F.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 09/14/2011 : 10:14:24

Thanks Kent.

Is your shift lever on the side of the powerhead or the tiller?

As the gearbox (with the exception of the shift lever) is internal and the tilt mechanism is external - that's a very odd solution . . . but I'll try it!

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Response Posted - 09/14/2011 : 10:27:04

OJ, ya I experienced the same thing with my honda. I discovered that someone had hit the outboard with another boat while mine was in her slip and bent the shaft to release it and prevented it from tilting. It was barely noticeable. Hope that is not your case.
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Response Posted - 09/14/2011 : 10:36:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by piseas
 OJ, ya I experienced the same thing with my honda. I discovered that someone had hit the outboard with another boat while mine was in her slip and bent the shaft to release it and prevented it from tilting. It was barely noticeable. Hope that is not your case.
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<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Thanks Steve.

We're on a mooring and I was wondering if someone tagged the outboard. No dings that I could see . . . at least from the cockpit.

What shaft was bent?

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Response Posted - 09/14/2011 : 18:18:33

The reason they set it up this way is so when you put it in reverse and give it power the prop won't pull the motor up and cause it to cavitate. Not sure why it has to be locked down while in neutral.

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Response Posted - 09/14/2011 : 18:35:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by GaryB
 The reason they set it up this way is so when you put it in reverse and give it power the prop won't pull the motor up and cause it to cavitate. Not sure why it has to be locked down while in neutral.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Maybe it's because the shift-tilt-lock is mis-adjusted, and it's locking the tilt in N and R instead of just R. (If so, let's hope it's adjustable.)

Also, I recall seeing some tilt-locks having a little spring that pulls the lock-lever off a shaft. I don't know which engine(s), but maybe you have a broken or missing spring.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 09/15/2011 : 08:24:19

Thanks everyone - I will explore all of these ideas this weekend.

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Response Posted - 09/15/2011 : 08:28:51

I disassembled and reassemble our tilt mechanism on our Evinrude about 4 times before I found the stray bolt in the bottom of the powerhead that was acting as a brake preventing the engine from tilting or going into reverse. The bolt was returned to its proper place holding I forget what to the block (some flange or wire strap or something minor).

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OJ
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Response Posted - 09/18/2011 : 11:38:54

Turns out I forgot to push down on the lever that releases the tilt mechanism!

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Response Posted - 09/18/2011 : 20:29:37

Oops! Well don't feel too bad. I would never admit I have had similar situation only to find out it was something simple that I didn't or forgot to check out. Caused me much anguish. Glad it worked out.
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Response Posted - 09/19/2011 : 06:42:34

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by OJ
 Turns out I forgot to push down on the lever that releases the tilt mechanism!

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You need to get out more often.

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Response Posted - 09/19/2011 : 13:37:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">This is entirely true! The dinghy motor tilts without pressing a lever . . . don't these things all work exactly the same?

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Response Posted - 09/19/2011 : 13:56:36

We ran out of gas this weekened. Called over another boat, topped up the tank, then realized we had pinched the hose under the FG cover on the fuel locker.

At least being stoopid got me a couple litres of free fuel.

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Response Posted - 09/20/2011 : 05:44:24

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Prospector
 We ran out of gas this weekened. Called over another boat, topped up the tank, then realized we had pinched the hose under the FG cover on the fuel locker...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">And you didn't notice as you were "topping up" that there was already gas in the tank?

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Response Posted - 09/20/2011 : 06:19:08

That's almost as bad as (when attempting to start) pushing the kill button instead of the start button on my Tohatsu 8 and thinking I had a problem

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Response Posted - 09/20/2011 : 06:22:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Prospector
 We ran out of gas this weekened. Called over another boat, topped up the tank, then realized we had pinched the hose under the FG cover on the fuel locker...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">And you didn't notice as you were "topping up" that there was already gas in the tank?

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Well - it was pretty low anyways, so I figured maybe it wasn't picking up. In any case, everyone is trying to empty their tanks right now, so I figure I was doing the other guy a favour. ;)

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Response Posted - 09/20/2011 : 11:55:44

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The dinghy motor tilts without pressing a lever . . . don't these things all work exactly the same?

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
If it doesn't lock won't it kick up if you put it in reverse? I believe that is the main reason the lock is in place.

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Response Posted - 09/20/2011 : 16:53:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Sloop Smitten
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The dinghy motor tilts without pressing a lever . . . don't these things all work exactly the same?

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If it doesn't lock won't it kick up if you put it in reverse? I believe that is the main reason the lock is in place.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Logical question Joe . . . it's a Suzuki 2.5 4-stroke which only has forward and neutral - you rotate the unit 180° for reverse.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 09/21/2011 : 07:10:55

Logical question - Logical answer

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Response Posted - 09/21/2011 : 16:00:45

For the Nissan, check this manual on page 21 to see if it helps. If not there are other models manuals here:

http://www.nissanmarine.com/tech_talk/pdf_files/Nis_99B2_15B2_18B2_4str.pdf

http://www.nissanmarine.com/tech_talk/owners_manuals.html

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