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hewebb
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Initially Posted - 10/26/2011 : 05:39:49

Yesterday we went for our second sail. The wind was 24 to 32 so I just raised the mainsail. We had a great sail for about 3 hours and I was pleased with the way she handled. As I gain experience I will put out more sail in a stiffer breeze. When I lowered the mainsail I discovered a couple of broken sail slides. I did learn to close the seacocks to the sinks and cooler drain. We had a bag of goodies in the cooler and the bag got wet. I assume the water came up the drain line when heeled over. It was a great day-cannot wait to go again. I gotta stop sailing with the fenders hanging out though. Wish there was a good place to put them when underway. I did take the time to put stainless steel carabiners on the lines so I would not have to untie them all the time. Maybe next time I will remember remove them.

1988 WK/SR w/inboard diesel Joe Pool Lake
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redeye
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Response Posted - 10/26/2011 : 06:41:08

<< good place to put them when underway. >>
IMHO

In the Dumpster..half hitch on the bilge pump hose.

Fenders At the dock...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daAM234GIV8&feature=related

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 10/26/2011 : 06:57:26

Another source of water in the icebox can be your freshwater tank. When the boat heels hard to port, the water tank is higher up than the sink. So, water flows down from the tank and through the faucet into the sink. If you are heeling over a long way the water flows over the sink rim toward the icebox before it can drain out properly. So, even though the thru hull valves are closed, you can end up with water in the icebox.
Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 10/26/2011 : 07:12:30

You can also jamb fenders between the cabin top and the shrouds. Just be sure your jib/genoa sheets run clear.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 10/26/2011 : 07:54:08

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by hewebb
 I gotta stop sailing with the fenders hanging out though. Wish there was a good place to put them when underway.
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Instead of hanging my fenders from the boat, I hang them from the dock. Just eliminates one more thing to do.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 10/26/2011 : 08:33:26

Replace those sail slides right away. Don't dink around with it.

We lost our main last year when the plastic slugs all snapped in a gust. After teh slugs all let go, the sali tore across the bottom of teh headboard, and although it never completely let go, it meant some uncomfortable work done at a heavy heel angle while pounding through big seas. The repair was not expensive, but it went into teh "things that could be avoided through cheap maintenance" column.

Get the steel/plastic slugs if you can. They have a steel piece for teh sail to attach to and a plastic "bullet" to go in the mast track.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 10/26/2011 : 08:35:52

Agree with Don's suggestion to hang the fenders off the dock. I had same question a few years back and acted upon it. I first tried hanging the fenders off a line between the cleats on my floating finger slip but I found that the line would stretch no matter how tight initially and the fenders would wind up close to or below the finger slip side. I was determined to hang the fenders off the slip and so I purchased SS cable from WM and used their fastener tool to make loops at the ends and attach a turnbuckle to one of them. I had to make up only one or two fasteners dockside. I slipped the loops over the cleats at each end of the finger slip and then attached the cable inbetween . Then attached a few fenders horizontally (parallel to the cable) dangling off of the cable by short lines that I used to attach the fenders. I then tightened up on the turnbuckle until the cable was taut. I then covered the turnbuckle and any exposed fasteners adjacent to it with velcroed coverings that WM sold. The fenders have been at exactly same position alongside the floating finger slip side for a few years now and I have had to make no adjustments whatsoever. It is one less hassle to deal with when leaving and coming back to the slip. I have other fenders that I use when away on overnighters.

Edited by - OLarryR on 10/26/2011 08:36:55

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Response Posted - 10/26/2011 : 14:09:38

I bought 4 oversize fenders that simply hung from my dock cleats on loops. If I wanted to take some for a raft up I simply lifted couple off and took them with me. I kept regular fenders in the anchor locker as a back up.

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 10/27/2011 : 05:20:54

Thanks for the idea of fastening the fenders to the dock-I hadn't thought of that. There are no cleats on the dock but I may be able to add a line to hang them from. I will look around at the other boats there to see how they have handled it. I know the ones close to me do not have fenders out. Next time I will buy smaller ones that will be easy to store. If I put them in the port cockpit locker with the other items it fills it up.

I have ordered a set of sail slides and a couple of spare steel sail fasteners and lubricant as well.

Thanks all for the information.

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Lynn
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Response Posted - 10/27/2011 : 23:48:27

I like to hang and tie the whips/fenders from the handrails instead of the lifelines. They are more visible there and in the way when getting ready to set sail, so am reminded to put them away. I remove them and put a slippery hitch on the whips and put the loops over the fingers in the C25 lazerette with the fenders hanging in the bottom. That way they are in easy reach and it beats having to stand on my head to fish them out of the bottom of the lazerrete when I need them. I guess I'm also a purist and prefer using knots to tie a line instead of things like caribiners or the plastic gadgets sold by marine suppliers. Knots are cleaner, easy to adjust and the skill is transferable to any boat you may have the pleasure to sails on. Also I like to have my fenders and dock/spring lines with me instead of leaving them at the dock, so when things "go downhill" I have the extra equipment to McGiver a solution.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 12:41:46

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by hewebb
 Thanks for the idea of fastening the fenders to the dock-I hadn't thought of that. There are no cleats on the dock but I may be able to add a line to hang them from. I will look around at the other boats there to see how they have handled it. I know the ones close to me do not have fenders out. Next time I will buy smaller ones that will be easy to store. If I put them in the port cockpit locker with the other items it fills it up.

I have ordered a set of sail slides and a couple of spare steel sail fasteners and lubricant as well.

Thanks all for the information.

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I've posted this before, but if your slip is between to fingers on a floating dock you can set up a nice safety net in case you come in too hot. The circles and ovals represent bumpers, circles for ones hanging normally and ovals for ones that are tied/secured sideways. I found all these extra bumpers in the dumpster. You can buy some small cleats and screw them to the dock for the side bumpers. I bought a set of new ones for tying up to other docks or raft ups, I drop them in the dumpster right at the bilge hose and they are easy to get to. I never use those bumpers in my slip, tying a good set of spring lines and good docklines will not allow my boat to bump up on the fingers.

I used four sets of line to tie the "crash" bumper about 2 inches above the water, when I come in single handed or hot my hull rolls above it and comes to a gentle stop.

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