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redviking
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Initially Posted - 10/28/2011 : 08:48:26

http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=1116550

sten

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 10:13:46

Wow!

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redeye
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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 10:38:56

Whoo Hoo.. talk about glad to see a dive boat.

Cheers to the Wave Chieftain!

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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 10:39:18

Lucky folks! Quite a story. I was a little surprised by George David's relaxed attitude that night with Wendy in the hospital... I think I'd have been looking for transportation instead of talking to media.

My lady's brother, nephew and son were in that race--they appeared early in the video (dark blue hull) and won their class. They were not one of the boats that sailed past Rambler 100--I think their class had started and rounded earlier, before the weather turned sour.

Thanks for posting that! I'm sending it on to them.

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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 10:55:46

Did a ltille reasearch and found this.

"One of the things I have learnt in maxi racing is that there's not a problem money can't solve."

It looks like Rambler will be sailing in the Sydney-Hobart in December.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 11:07:20

Duct tape the Keel?

( Is that an EPIRB in your pocket or are you just happy so see me? )

I believe I'd be wearing one like a watch.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 11:17:21

http://www.neatorama.com/2011/10/15/emergency-beacon-with-scrunchable-antenna-can-be-sewn-into-clothes/

Ya gotta wonder what people the likes of Larry Ellison are doin out without some form of 007 "Q" equipment on them.

I was shocked to hear only one EPIRB was picked up.

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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 14:45:46

Thanks for sharing. Good video

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redviking
 http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=1116550

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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 14:51:13

What can you say, but to all those that are prepared to rescue at sea.... THANK YOU.

Enough said.

Paul

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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 17:01:07

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> What can you say, but to all those that are prepared to rescue at sea.... THANK YOU. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Well said

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Response Posted - 10/28/2011 : 20:21:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by DaveR
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> What can you say, but to all those that are prepared to rescue at sea.... THANK YOU. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Well said

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Seconded!

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pfduffy
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Response Posted - 10/29/2011 : 08:20:49

As a first generation Irish American - that made me very proud of the lads involved in the rescue! Thanks for sharing.

I'm sure sailing those rocket ships is exciting, but they certainly don't belong in the open ocean.

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Response Posted - 10/29/2011 : 09:24:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by pfduffy
 I'm sure sailing those rocket ships is exciting, but they certainly don't belong in the open ocean.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">She was built for nothing else--stretching the envelope, yes... but purely for ocean racing. In the Transatlantic, which just preceded the fastnet, she took line honors and corrected to second--just before the Fastnet.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 10/31/2011 : 05:47:15

And whenever I hear the term "Catalina Smile" I laugh and think to myself...

"They smile but they don't fall off."

Edited by - redeye on 10/31/2011 06:18:21

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Response Posted - 10/31/2011 : 18:49:05

A great video and totally worth the watch. Sad news from this dorection though - here's where it goes from bad to really wrong: http://www.nunatsiaqonline.ca/stories/article/65674soldier_dies_on_rescue_mission_in_nunavut/ The story is on other Canadian Press but this is the closest I could find to its source.

Another version from a national newsline: http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Canada/20111031/soldier-rescue-death-111031/

Edited by - Prospector on 10/31/2011 18:52:55

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Response Posted - 10/31/2011 : 19:11:12

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Prospector
 ...Sad news from this dorection though - here's where it goes from bad to really wrong...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Yup. Ill-prepared and judgement-challenged "adventurers" (including a child in one recent circumnavigation fiasco) can end up risking the lives of heroic rescuers.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 10/31/2011 19:12:28

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Response Posted - 11/01/2011 : 20:56:02

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redviking
 http://www.rte.ie/player/#!v=1116550

sten
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Bummer, its been removed.
Steve A

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glivs
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Response Posted - 11/02/2011 : 05:22:42

Voyager - sad news indeed, but I saw no evidence in the news items as to what actually led to the rescuers death. If you see additional info, please post.

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> Yup. Ill-prepared and judgement-challenged "adventurers" <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Dave. I understand your statement in many situations but not here. The Inuit are not simple "adventurers". I worked out of Pt Barrow,AK for a decade beginning the mid-80's and I although they may not prepare the same way you and I would in our world they are very aware of their environment and limitations and take search & rescue very seriously. Arctic fog and rapidly changing weather are a fact of life...as is subsistence hunting. OK...I'm done

...I just wanted to clarify the context a bit.

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Response Posted - 11/02/2011 : 06:36:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by glivsDave. I understand your statement in many situations but not here...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Sorry, I wasn't trying to refer to the Nunavuts in that story--rather to the dangers in general to the Coast Guards of various nations. A rescue operation to save lives is almost by definition going to risk lives, as that story illustrates. When those rescues are due to the victims' negligence in planning, preparation, and basic skills, as with Abby Sunderland off Australia and numerous boaters off our own coasts, I tend to get agitated. (...sometimes so much so that I don't write clearly.

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Response Posted - 11/02/2011 : 14:18:25

Throwing gasoline in the fire:

On the subject of Abby Sunderland and other adventurers... Has anyone read Jessica Watson´s book True Spirit?

I just finished it. I don´t know if I would let any daughter or son go on the same journey, but I know if they showed the same interest, effort and commitment I would be a great supporter of their plans.

Cheers

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Response Posted - 11/02/2011 : 16:02:54

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JeanAndre
 I don´t know if I would let any daughter or son go on the same journey, but I know if they showed the same interest, effort and commitment I would be a great supporter of their plans.

Cheers<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I agree Jean. As a parent, I am unreservedly a member of my son's team, and would support him in any way possible so long as there was any reasonable likelihood of success, and he knows it. It's not my place to live his life and make all his choices for him. I also agree that the crucial question is whether he has the committment necessary to prepare himself sufficiently to succeed.

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Response Posted - 11/02/2011 : 16:18:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by JeanAndre
 Throwing gasoline in the fire:

On the subject of Abby Sunderland and other adventurers... Has anyone read Jessica Watson´s book True Spirit?

I just finished it. I don´t know if I would let any daughter or son go on the same journey, but I know if they showed the same interest, effort and commitment I would be a great supporter of their plans.

Cheers
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I followed both Jessica Watson. I still follow her adventures on Facebook as she prepares fot the Sydney-Hobart race. And, I followed the Abby Sutherland story as well. I thought that the biggest differenece in the 2 girls was their differing attitudes and preparation. Jessica, it was clear, took a the trip a lot more seriously and, I think, was much more realistic. Abby, on the other hand, showed her true colors when she had equipment issues and had to "re-start" from Mexico. She came into port in Mexico and promptly started blogging about her Mexican vacation while her Dad and others attended to her boat. The same thing occurred in South Africa. I think she had the attitude throughout that this whole thing was a lark and Dad and rescue was always just a phone call away. She gave air-headed Valley girls a bad name.

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glivs
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Response Posted - 11/02/2011 : 16:31:46

no issue Dave...I knew what you meant and share your angst in many situations.

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Response Posted - 11/02/2011 : 18:53:49

Dave - I was also Biting my tongue not being sure whether you were speaking to the abilities of the CCG or the Innu, both of whom I have deep respect for. Thanks for the clarifier.

glivs - if you meant me when you addressed Voyager above, the official statement is that the SAR Tech was dead in the water. He jumped in 70 km/h winds (45 mph +/-). To me that sounds like his chute didn't deploy, but I am hardly more than an armchair quarterback, who has never jumped from a plane, or seen arctic pack ice. Here is the story from CBC - our gov't sponsored news source (Think NPR) http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2011/10/29/mtl-.html

For those who have a hard time imagining a less hospitable place for a rescue, here is the googlemap... http://g.co/maps/knawg scroll around and see if you can find Igloolik where the father/son were from. Its a pretty small place with not a tree in sight.

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glivs
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Response Posted - 11/03/2011 : 15:10:40

Prospector....yes on the name foul up...could blame it on stress...but more likely a 60's thing

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