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Initially Posted - 01/27/2012 :  11:47:40  Show Profile
(Sorry about the opening commercial.)

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc.com/46116872/#46116872

Questionable seamanship. Glad they're OK.
Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/27/2012 :  12:03:25  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Looks pretty close to the shore. And with the video, there's a heap of fingers pointed to the boatswain's badges I'm sure.

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Response Posted - 01/27/2012 :  18:01:27  Show Profile
Guy at the wheel appears to have that deer in the headlights look about him.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 :  09:00:13  Show Profile
The subsequent waves did not appear to be breaking, and he did appear to know that he was in deep s when that one came cracking up.
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 :  09:53:22  Show Profile
Context is everything. Those guys were on a search and rescue mission for an 8 year old child. Their focus was divided between their mission and safeguarding themselves. The guy at the wheel saw the wave coming and began to turn the bow towards it, which was the correct action, but it was too late, and the boat got rolled. It was a misjudgment, plain and simple. His attention didn't have to be distracted for very long for him to be caught offguard by the wave. I'll give those guys credit for being there to help. They were operating near a beach, where square waves and breakers happen. You can't always keep the bow oriented toward the waves when you're trying to conduct a search. Sometimes you <u>have</u> to run the boat parallel to the beach and parallel to the waves. It appears to me that they took calculated risks to find the child.
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 :  13:14:21  Show Profile
I think that Steve has it mostly correct.

Given that I know next to nothing about the specific situation, the most likely scenario is that the driver got involved in the search, resulting in task saturation.

I work with emergency services and coordinate water rescue in my area. One of the never ending struggles is crew discipline regarding division of responsibilities. The same issues occur on fire trucks and ambulances.

It is very hard to be the driver and focus _completely_ on driving, but it is absolutely necessary. Even more so inshore and/or in surf.

In the drivers defense, his crew is standing and unbraced for hard maneuvering when he realizes his situation. This limited his options for fixing the predicament.

He also could have been ordered to hold position in a rip current which would have place him in the side-on position. This would require a risk/reward assessment from the driver resulting in compliance or a refusal.

In any case, I am glad that no one was injured. They will take the time to study the events leading up to the outcome. Then they will be able to work the resulting knowledge into future training.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 :  17:53:55  Show Profile
I don't disagree... Everything changes inside the surf line, which appears to be where they were. I've been there, too. Lessons will be learned. They were probably close enough to shore that the danger to themselves was reduced. That might be fortunate--looking again, I don't see a PFD (even an inflatable) on any of them. I suspect the USCG would disapprove.
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