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Chakana
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Initially Posted - 03/31/2012 :  04:18:27  Show Profile  Visit Chakana's Homepage
We are getting ready to order the vinyl boat name, Chakana, and are getting cold feet! Last night I came up with a second choice 'Cool Change'. Now we can't decide which one. Need to order it soon, please help with your opinion! Here are a few details about the names and why we like each one of them.

Chakana: We eventually want to sail to warmer climates, and dream of seeing the Southern Cross. Our fav. song is Southern Cross (CSN). The symbol of the Chakana represents the southern cross to the Inca Indians, along with many other interesting beliefs they have.

Cool Change: Yesterday was my birthday and Charley got me a necklace with dolphins and earrings too. We have always loved dolphins. Last night I was relaxing after a long day, and was watching my favorite YouTube video--Cool Change by Little River Band (it's a must see!!) It's all about dolphins and whales in the ocean. So I suddenly decided that Cool Change is a better name. To us, the boat represents a change...going from 28 years of raising kids, to now we're living for us! (last kid moved out 3 weeks ago and his bed room is now my Catalina Sewing Room!!)

When we say our boat name is Chakana to people, they usually look at us like we're crazy, never having heard the word, I guess.
However, Charley is a little bit stuck on Chakana. He likes that it's also kind of a combination of our two names, Chuck, and Anna (although he's never gone by Chuck).
Also keep in mind--we are considering a graphic integrated with the name somehow. Of course a Chakana with Chakana, or a dolphin with Cool Change.

Please post your opinion....

Charley & Anna Louiso
Chakana 1984 C25 SR/SK #4192
Louisville, KY

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/31/2012 :  04:52:45  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
I'd stay with Chakana. I kinda like the ring of it.

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Novi
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Response Posted - 03/31/2012 :  05:45:26  Show Profile
I vote Chakana - I like a name that invites people to stop and think for a second.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/31/2012 :  06:18:03  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Put your dreams in writing... you'll get there.

Chakana!

Paul

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 03/31/2012 :  06:37:56  Show Profile
Chakana

It's tough to be original and symbolic for the owner....that's a good one. Do the ceremony, appease Neptune, and incorporate the symbol into your boat card and all over the boat.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 03/31/2012 :  07:19:43  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
Speaking of boat cards - get some together quick! They are great for new friends at anchorages, for sales reps at boat shows, for marinas to remember what boat you are etc.

Its a quick and fun evening project to make them using templates and stock from staples or business depot.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/31/2012 :  07:27:52  Show Profile
Chakana has a nice sound and edges out Cool Change for me.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 03/31/2012 :  09:15:31  Show Profile
When I originally saw the name Chakana, I thought it was some combo of your names. And to find out it has meaning as well makes it more interesting. I vote Chakana. I'm sure cool change has a lot more use.

You may not have to worry about this if you're on an inland lake, but one test for our boat's names has been the bridge tender test. Since you have to hail the bridge tender on the radio, most of the time, if they cannot figure out what you are saying, they will ask you to spell it out.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 03/31/2012 :  11:38:01  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
It's starting to sound like you've got a quorum. I vote Chakana as well, even though I like Cool Change.

A little history on our boat's name:
Rita & I went round and round with our boat's name. I originally wanted to name her Mintaka (one of the stars in Orion's belt) which had some symbolism for me. However, it didn't mean much to her, and we wanted something that melded our worlds a bit. Just before we bought Sirius Lepak (then named Trading Time), one of our dogs died. We thought about naming the boat after her, but that didn't quite suite us either. We still wanted some symbolism, and now wanted something to remember Moni by, so we decided to incorporate the dog star (Sirius) into the name. We didn't want to just name the boat Sirius since it didn't seem to take any of Rita's heritage into account. We tossed names around for a few days and then settled on Sirius Lepak. "Lepak" in Malay (Rita's Malaysian) means to hang out, relax, kick back, etc. And it seemed a nice play on words to seriously hang out, so that's how we came by our name. Admittedly it's a bit of a mouthful, and unless you happen to be a Malaysian or Indonesian astronomer, you might not get the joke, but it's fun to tell the story.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 03/31/2012 :  21:14:01  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Go with "Chakana" . I would have no clue what it means and likely never to come up with it's meaning on my own...but it means something to you both.

I would generally favor names or two word phrase that are a play on words/meaning such as "Cool Change". However, my thought is that if it signifies the changing relationship of now having the kids out of the house and now living for us as you indicated.....you may after putting the name on the hull decide it kind of excludes your kids and that may in time not express your feelongs. After all, they will always be your kids and I am sure you would welcome the times they may join you for a sail.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 04/01/2012 :  05:30:04  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
My only concern with Chakana is pronunciation. After your post above I started wondering if I read it wrong.

I see it as "shaw-kana" but from what you are saying it is pronounced "chuk-ana" be ready to be hailed as either name when you are under way.

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Chakana
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Response Posted - 04/01/2012 :  06:31:06  Show Profile  Visit Chakana's Homepage
Thanks everybody!
Chakana it will be.
David--love the story!

One of my biggest reasons for hesitation was dreading having to explain the name to everyone--it gets old. However, the idea of the boat card is perfect!. Maybe few sentences on the back that explains the symbol.

Thanks again guys!
Anna
P.S. We pronounce it Chuh KAH nah

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waterbaby
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Response Posted - 04/01/2012 :  17:08:40  Show Profile
This naming the boat business is quite challenging. If you saw my own post on this you'll know I had to enlist the aid our our very smart dog to snif it out for me. Ha! Ha! Your boat name is great - you should always stick with your first impression.

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JimGo
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Response Posted - 04/01/2012 :  20:53:22  Show Profile
Sounds like you've already decided, but I'd vote for Chakana too.

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 04/02/2012 :  07:37:22  Show Profile
Congrats on your new boat and new name.

I decided on the name for mine just last week; the C-18 was 'Moment of Zen' from the TV program 'The Daily Show' with Jon Stewart. I only sailed it for 2 seasons and didn't think I really got my money's worth out of the name, but I didn't want to use the same name. A member of the SailNet forum suggested 'Zen Again' and it seems to have stuck. I'll do the graphics next year, no budget for it this season.

Ken

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 04/02/2012 :  08:09:22  Show Profile
My wife and I also just decided on the name for our new C-25 last week. "lutra" is the genus name for European Otters. My wife loves watching the river otters play in the waters around here, so it was fitting. The otters that we see have the name "lontra" (specifically "lontra canadensis"), but we like the sound of lutra better than lontra.

Does anyone have a good source for getting vinyl graphics made? I need to remove the current names (our boat has two of them) pronto, because one of them really bugs me "the great surprise", and the other is nice but mostly a shadow in oxidized gelcoat "lwellyn".

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/02/2012 :  08:53:53  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
I was happy with Boat US Graphics. They are a bit more expensive than some...but they are in my area - Boat US Hqtrs is in Alexandria, VA. The Boat US Store changed names/ownership to West Marine and they had a slide window to access the Boat US Graphics Dept. When I smudged one of the letters on the boat dock, Boat US was kind enough to give me some matl (free) to use and to save in case I smudge the letters again. They just looked up my original order and cut me a piece. West Marine then consolidated stores in our area and closed the Boat US/West Marine store but I believe the Graphics Dept is still located at the Boat US Hqtrs at same location.

However, there have been posts on this subject before and a search using the Forum Search function should be able to get you to the past postings and some addl resources of which a number of them are perhaps more reasonable. Many have online software that will enable you to depict what your font and color will look like before ordering. Any questions, the Graphics Dept contacted directly will be able to offer addl advice as in my case, the capital letters have long tails to them that exceed the letter size mentioned. Also, the Graphics Dept can sometimes offer some alterations of what you see for your lettering regarding the spacing. In my case, they spaced the letters slightly closer together...even so, my boat name is fairly long but looks great and can be seen from a fair distance away as friends that see me sailing can make out the boat name. In general, go with as large a font as you can because small lettering will not be able to be seen unless up fairly close.

By the way...I am not sure exzctly what the matl is if it is indeed vinyl graphics. I believe it is made out of a proprietary matl such as 3M Controltac or something similar...and that goes probably for all those that make the boat graphics.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/02/2012 :  08:55:08  Show Profile
Just go to a local Fast Sign or similar sign making shop. You'll be able to pick the font, color, and size.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/02/2012 :  09:00:18  Show Profile
You could also do the name lettering on the boat phonetically: Chuh-KAH-nah.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 04/02/2012 :  09:48:17  Show Profile
I'll second Boatus graphics. No running around and you can play with the graphics on their site until you like what you see.

http://www.boatus.com/boatgraphics/

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JimGo
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Response Posted - 04/02/2012 :  11:12:38  Show Profile
If you actually call BoatUS, they are excellent to deal with and do a great job. Just got my name back from them and can't wait to install them!

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Response Posted - 04/02/2012 :  18:54:32  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by awetmore</i>
<br />My wife and I also just decided on the name for our new C-25 last week. "lutra" is the genus name for European Otters. My wife loves watching the river otters play in the waters around here, so it was fitting. The otters that we see have the name "lontra" (specifically "lontra canadensis"), but we like the sound of lutra better than lontra.

Does anyone have a good source for getting vinyl graphics made? I need to remove the current names (our boat has two of them) pronto, because one of them really bugs me "the great surprise", and the other is nice but mostly a shadow in oxidized gelcoat "lwellyn".
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My boat was named LaFawnduh (from Napoleon Dynamite) when I first bought her. I quickly got tired of people passing me in the channel doing double takes and laughing hysterically.

Then one day I was coming past Outriggers Restaurant with their outdoor deck covered with fine looking babes. One of the girls saw the name and made some snide comments and before I could get away everyone on the deck was hollering comments and laughing their @#$#^ off. Needless to say when I got back to the dock the name came off.

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/02/2012 :  20:31:06  Show Profile  Visit OLarryR's Homepage
Gary - Even at 1130pm, that's a funny boat name story.

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 04/03/2012 :  13:52:22  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Davy J</i>
<br />I'll second Boatus graphics. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I'll third them.

They did the graphics for my C-18; I was very happy.

My face looked like this:

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 04/03/2012 :  14:27:09  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Does anyone have a good source for getting vinyl graphics made? I need to remove the current names (our boat has two of them) pronto, because one of them really bugs me "the great surprise", and the other is nice but mostly a shadow in oxidized gelcoat "lwellyn".<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Alex,
OT: I know your boat, hopefully it came with the brand new Nissan engine? If it did, you can read about how it got there [url="http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23750"]here[/url]. Pretty embarrassing on my part, but confession is good for you, right? Your boat used to be parked next to mine in my marina before the owner got kicked out. I always thought it was odd that it had two names, but after meeting the owners, anything was possible. Hopefully it cleaned up nicely.

Back on topic, we had our decals made at a local shop in Everett (where I used to work). They came with double stick-peel off layers so you could easily line up the decal before applying it, then you strip it off and roll it down. Quite easily done and the people at the place were very-very helpful.

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Just go to a local Fast Sign or similar sign making shop. You'll be able to pick the font, color, and size.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

[url="http://www.fastsigns.com/471-everett-wa/products/labels-and-decals"]This is the place, another Fast Sign[/url]. They're a chain, so you might find someone closer to you.

If you want to get rid of the ghosted image, I've got a Milwaukee polisher you can borrow to get rid of it (and lots of other oxidation with your gel coat if you want to go through the effort).

You can take the old vinyl text off with a heat gun (we actually used a hair drier on "high" which worked OK). The residual glue came off with liberal application of Goo Gone and some elbow grease. You can pick up a heat gun from Harbor Freight for about $12 or so. Or if you want to borrow the Milwaukee polisher, I'll loan you the heat gun as well.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 04/03/2012 :  15:03:42  Show Profile
Yup, same boat, and yup, we have a brand new engine. It is very well spec'd engine too, with the 25" long shaft and a 4 blade 5" pitch prop. It's interesting to know the back story on how the engine got there, the PO didn't really explain why it had been replaced. The boat is cleaning up nicely, it had solid bones with a lot of neglect on top of that. He did very little in the way of modifications, which means that the deck has had few holes drilled in it and the core is in great shape. We got it for a pretty good price that made me comfortable with the work that we would need to do (like new mainsail, new rudder, new tiller, new cushions, new compass, etc).

It would be very helpful to borrow those tools David, thanks for the offer. I had been hoping that I could just peel the vinyl with a razor blade, but this sounds a lot easier. I may also get the heat gun myself, there is a 25% coupon for Harbor Freight floating around and they just opened a branch in SODO.

I do have a cheap car buffing wheel, are they useful at all for applying polisher? So far we've concentrated on structural work and haven't touched the fiberglass besides the most basic cleaning.

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