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dlucier
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Response Posted - 06/07/2012 :  12:27:43  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Steve Milby</i>
<br />It's no fun changing sails on a wet, plunging foredeck in strong winds.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Been there, done that, and now that I have a furler, I'm not going back!
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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 06/08/2012 :  15:36:12  Show Profile
I just had the yard install my new Harken furler today, and I finished installing my new-to-me Lewmar 44 winches today, and tomorrow morning I'll get to try them out in a casual race among friends. Life is good! Of course, now all I have to do is pay for it.
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bobsta
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Response Posted - 06/08/2012 :  17:19:16  Show Profile
@ GaryB - ya, I always rigged for the weather before leaving the mooring too - its just that right now my only option is to reef the main and roll out less of the genny. Which is ok... I'm just bemoaning the fact that I'd like to have the option to go out in 18+ and have good sail shape and control - loved that working jib(110%)and reefed main set-up I had on the Irwin. But now after reading the thoughts of yourself and others... perhaps all I need to do is find a more workable roller system. Thanks
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redviking
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Response Posted - 06/08/2012 :  20:44:03  Show Profile
It is worth noting that a reefed headsail on a furler will not perform as well as a stormsail as the center of force is up too high.

That's why there are products like this one that allows you to easily add a storm sail to a furler while maintaining an appropriate center of balance...





$550 at www.atninc.com

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 :  09:38:07  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by bobsta</i>
<br />@ GaryB - ya, I always rigged for the weather before leaving the mooring too - its just that right now my only option is to reef the main and roll out less of the genny. Which is ok... I'm just bemoaning the fact that I'd like to have the option to go out in 18+ and have good sail shape and control - loved that working jib(110%)and reefed main set-up I had on the Irwin. But now after reading the thoughts of yourself and others... perhaps all I need to do is find a more workable roller system. Thanks
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Bobsta,

I just bought a nice used 110% furling jib for $150.00 plus shipping. It's older but appears to be in very good condition. With my furler I should be able to swap it out at the dock in well under 5 minutes.

Just a fyi... I've been using my furling 150 in winds up to 15 knots with out rolling it in but I didn't have the main up. Boat handled great.

The ATN solution above is another good idea that I've heard works great.
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islander
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 :  14:11:30  Show Profile


Looks to be in the same position as my 135 is when rolled up. Might have better shape but its not any lower. I think I will keep the $550.
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 :  16:25:08  Show Profile
Surely you can lower it on the forestay/furler with a shorter tack line.
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Novi
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 :  16:58:06  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Surely you can lower it on the forestay/furler with a shorter tack line.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I don't see any reason why you couldn't have it ride an inch or two above the furler drum. But I'll stick to the 75% I have with luff tape, looks like the exact same effort to rig this set up vs dropping my 135 and raising the 75.

Just two ways to tackle the same problem - neither perfect.
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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 06/11/2012 :  11:24:29  Show Profile
We had two jibs for our C25: 110 and 85. I used the small one during the summer here. No furler. On our C34 we do the same. Have a furler. Steve's right, when you have a bigger boat, the furler is almost a necessity, 'cuz i wouldn't wanna have to bag a jib every time I went out, never an issue on the C25 (although I was a tad younger!).

Lotsa of discussions over the years have begun to conclude that 155s are a PITA and that 130s or 135s will do almost as well in light air and can usefully be reduced, whereas the 155 really can't be shortened when it starts to blow. Also a lot of folks are going to 110s with ASs for lighter air.

Your boat, your choice.
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LewieWallace
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Response Posted - 06/28/2012 :  18:29:55  Show Profile
I sail with the Alado. I don't see any difference in the ability to change head sails with the CDI and the Alado. However, the Alado is really painful for trailering. The segmented aluminum foil will bend fairly easily when you step/lower the mast. At $125 per 5 foot section, this can be expensive. I also remove the drum while trailering - it is quite heavy as it is cast aluminum and 8" diameter. It adds about 20 minutes to my rigging time. I have been working my mind around a reasonable support so that I do not have to take it off, but have not come up with a good idea yet. From reading and pondering, I would like to try the SnapFurl. The two piece plastic foil will let you drop the mast without worrying about bending.
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