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eguevara
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Initially Posted - 07/25/2012 :  09:44:11  Show Profile  Visit eguevara's Homepage
I have started to fix my split rudder.
Here is a pic of the rudder after initial sanding, filler in crack, first layer of glass and sanding.
I'll post more as soon as I can.

-eddy
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 07/25/2012 :  10:12:35  Show Profile
How did you verify that there is no water in the core and that the core is still solid?
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szymek
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Response Posted - 07/25/2012 :  12:17:04  Show Profile
I would highly advice against the repair.

Grab a coffee and read through my thread: http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25166

I've repaired it... it snapped... was under distress for a bit 4 miles away from shore.... had to buy new rudder..... and was without sailing for 6 weeks.

Just my $0.02
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 07/25/2012 :  13:35:15  Show Profile
The rudder seam split is actually somewhat common on these boats. My boat came with a newer balanced rudder that had seam issues which I repaired. Those repairs are eleven years old now.
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 07/25/2012 :  17:15:01  Show Profile
If the core is fine and delamination hasn't taken place and the core is now dry it seems like the fix could hold up. If it is still wet or delaminated then it may not. I don't know of a good way to check (tapping should help fine delamination, but not dryness), which is why I asked.

Since the rudder is such a critical component I felt like replacing mine was the right idea.
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sethp001
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Response Posted - 07/25/2012 :  17:55:10  Show Profile
When I did my bottom job back in June of this year, I noticed my rudder seam was open (about half as much as yours appears to be) all the way around from just below the water line upward. After the boat was out of the water for about a month and the rudder doing whatever drying out it could do through that open seam, I slapped white MarineTex all around the seam and sealed it up. I didn't bother trying to ascertain the condition of the wood inside because I didn't want to spend anymore time on maintenance while the season slipped away.

So far its holding up well, but if it doesn't and I lose the rudder its not so bad for me because I'm on a small inland lake. I've used MarineTex successfully elsewhere and it really does appear to be stronger than fiberglass and adhere very well.
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szymek
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Response Posted - 07/25/2012 :  19:57:23  Show Profile
I'm not an expert in any way.. I was just speaking based on my experience.

I was confident that I can fix small crack. I had it fixed professionally and the rudder just failed few inches below. Lake Ontario is not a small lake so it wasn't much fun when the rudder snapped in half.

Although I've seen numerous people report here that they fixed their rudder - maybe it's just my luck.
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eguevara
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Response Posted - 07/25/2012 :  21:24:50  Show Profile  Visit eguevara's Homepage
dried it out in the texas heat for a week...
if it snaps.. I can always motor back.. I'm never more than 1.5 miles away from a marina.
More pictures to come...

-eddy
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hewebb
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Response Posted - 07/27/2012 :  06:22:13  Show Profile
Eddie

The bottom of mine was looking like it was separating. I cleaned it out and found solid material. The boat was on the hard for about 2 months while I was doing other things. I did add some fiberglass around the seam and recoated with sealer and bottom pant. As you know I have been using the boat several months since. I will pull it next month and check the rudder again. It will go in dry storage while we are traveling for a couple of months.
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