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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Initially Posted - 08/02/2012 :  21:29:51  Show Profile
This was in my "neighborhood"--I've been where he was (in my boat) and can guess how it looked to him. Read, watch, and listen... especially to his last sentence.

[url="http://www.soundingsonline.com/dispatches/288818-video-11-hours-with-no-pfd"]Overboard without a life jacket.[/url]

Next land-fall after Block Island: Spain?

Dave Bristle
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PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage before going over to the Dark Side (2007-2025); now boatless for the first time since 1970 (on a Sunfish).

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 08/02/2012 :  22:25:57  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Wow. Sounds like he kept his head, but treading water for 11 hours? Lucky, lucky guy to have lived through that.

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pfduffy
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 :  07:39:27  Show Profile
Don't stand next to that guy in a thunder storm!

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 :  09:03:58  Show Profile
"<i>...Wear a lifejacket. Be very careful out there because it's an unforgiving thing.</i>"

Wiser words have never been spoken.

This guy sounds like he's retired military: "I made a plan and executed that plan" And, how many civilians even know what a C-130 is let alone what one looks like while banking at night.

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piseas
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 :  10:02:04  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
He was extremely lucky. That is my greatest fear while sailing alone, even though I wear a life jacket.
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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 :  11:04:27  Show Profile
A favorite old saying: <b>"The water wants to kill you."</b> (I don't use that around people who are already afraid--only those who are too casual about it.)

Along with exhaustion and hypothermia, he probably (ironically) suffered from dehydration.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 :  11:54:11  Show Profile
And it looks like that military training helped save his life..

now if he can keep an eye on those civilian recommendations

and the old joke...

"And ever since, I've worn a life jacket.."

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 :  13:22:55  Show Profile
When singlehanding, a harness and tether of appropriate length will keep you <u>in</u> the boat.

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/03/2012 :  19:20:40  Show Profile
I learned the phrase as <i><b>"...the water is not your friend, it is always trying to kill you..."</b></i>

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/04/2012 :  15:43:33  Show Profile
What do you think he would have liked more, a PFD or an engine cutoff lanyard?

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 08/04/2012 :  21:35:13  Show Profile
A lanyard is not a panacea. Maybe the engine will stop, but the boat won't. Breeze and currents can move the boat about 3 kts, which is about 1 kt <i>faster</i> than you can swim.

We've tested kayaks in this situation - we have people do a wet exit and forget to keep a hand on their boats. They can get away from you way too quickly!

So even with a life jacket, if you hit the 60 degree water in Block Island Sound and hang out in the cold water for a long time, you will die.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 08/05/2012 :  07:08:55  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Voyager</i>
<br />A lanyard is not a panacea.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Neither is a PFD, tether, EPIRB, handheld radio,...etc.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 08/05/2012 :  07:40:01  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Voyager</i>
<br />A lanyard is not a panacea.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Neither is a PFD, tether, EPIRB, handheld radio,...etc.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Exactly. It isn't possible to eliminate all risk. You can only reduce it to an acceptable minimum.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/05/2012 :  09:01:52  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Steve Milby</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dlucier</i>
<br />[quote]<i>Originally posted by Voyager</i>
<br />A lanyard is not a panacea.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...It isn't possible to eliminate all risk. You can only reduce it to an acceptable minimum.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">...which that guy didn't do. But now he will.

Bruce: I've heard that a leash from the paddle to the kayak lets the paddle serve as something of a sea anchor so the wind doesn't take the kayak away as quickly. I haven't tested that... Where we kayak on the Mystic River, if you fall off one of my sit-on-tops (pretty hard to do), you can generally walk ashore--in the mud.

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