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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 08/22/2012 : 17:38:29

We chartering an Island Packet next year for a 10 day charter in the virgin islands.

The boat has a diesel inboard.

Any pointers to a good cliff notes source on diesel engines ( small marine types)

Paul

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Updated August 2015

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/22/2012 : 21:34:49

Just check out how to change the fuel filter--it can get clogged if you get into choppy conditions that stir up sludge from algae that has built up in the tank. Otherwise, it should be bullet-proof.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 08/23/2012 : 04:27:48

That and belts and impellers... Fuel, oil, water. You are good to go...

Sten

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Response Posted - 08/23/2012 : 07:16:58

For my one charter experience (C36 in the Chesapeake), I got a 10 minute tutorial from the checkout skipper. That seemed to get me through the week. I could not locate any cliff notes, so if you find something I'd be interested.

Hopefully you can get through a 10 day charter without having to replace the belts or impeller. That's a level of service that should warrant a call to the charter company rather than attempt DIY. I hope that they would send a powerboat out to meet you and do the work.

Are you chartering from Island Yachts in Red Hook? I think they're the main Island Packet fleet down there. I dropped by when I was down there last year and picked up their brochure and chatted a few minutes with the owner's wife. (It was a land-based vacation, and we did a one-day skippered charter with Charlie on http://simplicitycharters.com/ )

We're thinking of chartering out of BVI next year, but might also consider Island Yachts. I'd be interested in hearing your comments on the various charter options.

Edited by - TakeFive on 08/23/2012 14:53:26

britinusa
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Response Posted - 08/23/2012 : 13:39:15

Yes Rick. IYC at Red Hook.

I don't count my experience on Navy ships which had giant diesels on board. So I want to smarten up before the trip.

IP's are way up there on my pipe dreams. Tough call between them and the C36 Mk ii.

No room alongside our house for either

Paul

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Response Posted - 08/23/2012 : 14:41:45

For a 10 day trip not much to worry about. Just glance over the stern ocasionally to be sure you have water coming out your exhaust. Find the sea water strainer figure out how to open and clean in case you suck up a plastic bag or big jelly fish. After 2 weeks of running the diesel, you'll be trying to figure out how to install one on JD.

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Response Posted - 08/23/2012 : 18:34:16

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by britinusa
 ...IP's are way up there on my pipe dreams. Tough call between them and the C36 Mk ii...
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I'm interested to hear your comments after you've sailed it. A friend of mine who races his C&C 37 said that he thinks the IPs are too slow and do not point well. He actually said he'd pick a C36 over it because the narrower, more cramped design of the IP provides no performance benefits. Of course, the hardware and workmanship are very high end, so they are very different boats. I was surprised that this guy was so negative on them.

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Response Posted - 08/24/2012 : 06:55:30

The headroom, as far as I recall, on my dock neighbor's Island Packet 42 is about 6'4" so I could stand up when I toured his boat. The C-36 original design had about the same headroom, but from what I have read, the C-36 MKII design has 6'2" or less standing headroom. The interior design of the MKII does have numerous improvements, though.

I also found the space inside another dock neighbor's C-42 very pleasant when I toured that boat a few years ago.

No problem choosing for me, however!

As soon as the magic fairy drops a bundle of cash in my lap, I will be picking up my favorite blue water cruising yacht!

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Response Posted - 08/25/2012 : 21:12:54

Paul, I would ask about use of the glow plugs prior to starting. On mine, you 'heat' the glow plugs for 10 seconds on the the first start of the day, and it fires up the first time, ever time.

Also ask about top speed, usually your top speed for the engine is 'about 2500-rpm', not like a gasoline engine where you may want to run it wide open. I'll second the advice to, watch for cooling water being pumped out the stern discharge. If no cooling water is coming out the sea cock for the intake may be shut off, and you should not be running the engine.

If it has a STOP cable or switch, you will not be starting the engine, with the cable in the STOP position, best to return it to normal or run, so you are READY to start the engine next time you need it.
A few things to be aware of, but the advantages are a highly reliable engine, great fuel economy, and mine always starts.
Doug

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 08/26/2012 : 05:59:23

Either write down what they tell you or look in the manual they give you, to start and stop the engine. That should be all you'd "need" to know on a charter for 10 days. If you can find out what engine the boat has before you leave, then Google it and learn some more on your own if you want.

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Response Posted - 08/26/2012 : 08:45:49

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stu Jackson C34
 ...to start and stop the engine...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Yup--you can't stop a diesel by cutting the ignition (since there is none).

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 08/26/2012 : 09:24:02

After you shut off the fuel to stop the motor, be sure to open the fuel valve again so it will be ready next time.

If you go out sailing and the diesel refuses to start, double check the fuel cut off before calling for help. Don't ask me how I know this.

Edited by - TakeFive on 08/26/2012 09:26:01

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