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4 Sale- 30' Catalina Owned by Frank Butler

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piseas
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Initially Posted - 09/17/2012 : 14:21:30

I was looking at one of my favorite local Yacht brokerages and found this boat. It pretty cheap. It was owned new by Frank Butler. Its a 1975 tall rig for under $8k. [url="http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_detail.jsp?&units=Feet&id=2504564&lang=en&slim=broker&&hosturl=heritageyachts&&ywo=heritageyachts&"]Check it out. [/url]
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PCP777
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Response Posted - 09/17/2012 : 14:35:47

Wish that was around here. That is cool.

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Response Posted - 09/17/2012 : 15:33:39

Why is it for sale at such a low price? The engine alone costs over $6000 before installation (I was just pricing these out). A C-30 with a repower and in otherwise decent great condition would normally be worth at least double if not triple the asking price of this one.

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Response Posted - 09/17/2012 : 16:04:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by awetmore
 Why is it for sale at such a low price? The engine alone costs over $6000 before installation (I was just pricing these out). A C-30 with a repower and in otherwise decent great condition would normally be worth at least double if not triple the asking price of this one.
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1975 37 years old. Someone wants to get rid of it quickly.

You would think some museum somewhere would snap it up.

Paul

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Response Posted - 09/17/2012 : 16:58:47

I thought about thsi for a second and then realized that every Catalina was owned by Frank Butler before we took delivery of them...

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Response Posted - 09/17/2012 : 18:12:31

Chris my thoughts 'zacly!
Besides that, I think that such an inexpensive $$$ tells me there are some MAJORLY BAD problems with the boat.

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Response Posted - 09/17/2012 : 23:16:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Voyager
 Chris my thoughts 'zacly!
Besides that, I think that such an inexpensive $$$ tells me there are some MAJORLY BAD problems with the boat.
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It's a buyers market. Remember dockage or storage on the hard. Folks can't afford to keep their boats right now. Worse than the housing market. Look at it this way. It's quite possible that slip fees for one year would eat up every penny of its value anyway.

Fish or cut bait time for someone. Desperate people will take a few bucks rather than lose the whole thing.

sten

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Response Posted - 09/18/2012 : 05:45:57

I tend to agree with Sten - there are many deals out there. Without knowing circumstances, its hard to say that every well priced boat is a clunker right now. There are a few deals near me that I know aren't crap boats. If only I was a rich dude... but then this kind of thinking is probably why I'm not a rich dude.

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Response Posted - 09/18/2012 : 11:53:08

Hmmm… I've really wanted to move up to a 30 for a while. Now's the time to do some shopping.

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piseas
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Response Posted - 09/18/2012 : 12:42:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Prospector
 I thought about thsi for a second and then realized that every Catalina was owned by Frank Butler before we took delivery of them...
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This one he owned as shown on the registration title. Can't say that about other Catalina boats.
Re slip fees, its true. The cost here in SoCal is $20 - $25 per foot per month. So cost for this size about $600-$750 per month. You are right, most can't afford that. Time to look for a partnership.
Steve A

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 09/18/2012 : 16:40:27

Wow, I thought Seattle was expensive. A slip for a 30' boat here is about $250/mo on fresh water or $375-400/mo on salt water. It gets cheaper if you go outside of the city and into the north or south suburbs.

It's interesting here that moorage rates aren't linear. A 30' slip (good enough for most boats up to about 28-29') is $310/mo, a 34' slip is $380/mo, from the city-owned marinas. That is $10.30/foot for the shorter slip and $11.30/foot for the longer.

I still think that C-30 is nicely priced (without having seen it in person), regardless of who once owned it. It's not hard to find 30' boats around Seattle for that price, but they'll generally have 40 year old motors to go along with 40 years of neglect. A healthy boat with a repower is almost always over $20k, and often boats which need a repower and new sails are also in that same price range. I've been shopping for ~30' boats recently and looking at a lot of options. Maybe boats in LA are significantly cheaper due to the high slip rates.

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Response Posted - 09/18/2012 : 19:26:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Voyager
 Hmmm… I've really wanted to move up to a 30 for a while. Now's the time to do some shopping.
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I suggest you look outside the mass market produced vessels and find the bluewater vessel that will keep you captivated for awhile. Everyday, someone's dreams wither and die. Their loss is your gain.

sten

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