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dreed1665
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Initially Posted - 01/20/2013 :  12:38:08  Show Profile
Hello, we recently purchased a 1984 C 25 it is located in what is presently a frozen north Idaho and was wondering about changing a boats name. I was told once it is bad luck to change a boats name. Just wondering what thoughts there are about the subject. We are looking forward to the Spring sailing season. Yes we have paid the $22 to join as I have found many postings that have already answered many newby questions.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 01/20/2013 :  13:12:25  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dreed1665</i>
<br />Hello, we recently purchased a 1984 C 25 it is located in what is presently a frozen north Idaho and was wondering about changing a boats name. I was told once it is bad luck to change a boats name. Just wondering what thoughts there are about the subject. We are looking forward to the Spring sailing season. Yes we have paid the $22 to join as I have found many postings that have already answered many newby questions.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Welcome to the forum! There is a ritual you can use for changing a boat's name without angering the gods (and someone here can furnish you a reference to it), but I changed my boat's name without performing the ritual, and she made it through Hurricane Sandy with nary a scratch. Of course, I should refer you to the disclaimer that the officers have displayed on this website: "The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site." Good luck!

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szymek
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Response Posted - 01/20/2013 :  13:12:39  Show Profile
Welcome to the forum and to C25 family.

In terms of name change. Many people say it's a bad omen to change name of the boat. I got my C25 in 2008 and I wasn't crazy on the name - Shy Tuna. I don't even know the history of the name and it sounds bit silly. However, I am bit on superstitious side and decided not to change the name and the name grew on me over the last few years.

But I know many sailors that changed names of their vessels and they're still sailing (including renamed vessels) :-)

At the end of the day it's what you believe in and how superstitious you are.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 01/20/2013 :  13:35:17  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
Here is John Vigor's [url="http://www.48north.com/mr_offline/denaming.htm"]Interdenominational Boat Denaming Ceremony[/url]

We didn't bother with the ceremony, although we did remove all references to the previous boat name. So far so good, going on six years now.

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trptelf
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Response Posted - 01/20/2013 :  14:40:37  Show Profile
We bought a boat whose name had been changed. We renamed the boat back to its original name, and performed every ceremony we could find. It was fun, and an excuse to share some spirits and have a celebration. Superstitious? I don't know, maybe more of a party opportunist?

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 01/20/2013 :  17:40:22  Show Profile
There are other "historic" rituals--some involving a virgin woman, although I'll leave the details on that for your discovery... Use Vigor's or make up your own--in any case, have some fun with it. A boat's name should be a meaningful and (most times) fun thing--make the most of that!

And welcome to the community!

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islander
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Response Posted - 01/20/2013 :  17:56:56  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">some involving a virgin woman<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Yea..OK, you may never get the name changed going that route..

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 01/20/2013 :  23:03:49  Show Profile
Our C-25 came with the terrible name "The Great Surprise". I figured it would be worse luck to not rename it, and that's when it became Lutra.

We didn't do the ceremony, but we did remove the old name first.

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 01/21/2013 :  04:41:35  Show Profile
The name on our boat reminded the admiral of her X. We had to change it. Really enjoyed the ceremony with some friends. Welcome to the group and enjoy.

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shnool
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Response Posted - 01/21/2013 :  04:52:28  Show Profile  Visit shnool's Homepage
Oh my god thank you! "The Great Surprise" that is downright funny...
Ok, I'll share, I changed mine too, because the prior name was "Happy Flapper." Sorry had to go. Present name mixes "chutes" with "shooting dog," which is a Field Trial description for a dog that runs big and fast, and handles flawlessly. A shooting dog is a bigger running gun dog. Our biggest winning Brittany was a shooting dog, he's also my shadow these days.

Ritual or no ritual, change the name, enjoy your boat, and a very huge welcome here.

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dreed1665
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Response Posted - 01/21/2013 :  16:07:37  Show Profile
Thanks for all your thoughts and advise. We will decide about the name change when the tarps come off this spring. Fair winds to all.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 01/21/2013 :  20:46:32  Show Profile
The PO of my boat named her La Fawnduh. That had to go pretty quickly after I boat the boat.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 01/22/2013 :  18:50:52  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by dreed1665</i>
<br />Thanks for all your thoughts and advice. We will decide about the name change when the tarps come off this spring. Fair winds to all.
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Do the name change ceremony in the water and not on the hard. Neptune will be much happier. Also, Neptune and Poseidon have given up on the virgin thing. But a woman peeing on your bow usually makes them happy. That or a quick flash of the boobies.

sten
DPO "Zephyr" '82 C25 SR FK #3220
SV "Lysistrata" '73 C&C39 - Dunedin FL

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 01/22/2013 :  20:12:09  Show Profile
I left mine the same as the PO because it seemed to fit. Plus, at almost 50 years old, I couldn't find any virgins. Maybe the next boat but for now she stands as "Knot So Fast".


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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 01/23/2013 :  09:34:31  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by szymek</i>
<br />...I wasn't crazy on the name - Shy Tuna. I don't even know the history of the name and it sounds bit silly...
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I'm not saying it isn't silly, but the name refers to a dance. I'm too caucasian to know anything about the dance itself, I just know it from the B-52's song 'Dance This Mess Around':

[chorus]
Dance this mess around
Dance this mess around, 'round, 'round
Everybody goes to parties
They dance this mess around
They do the Shu-ga-loo
<b>Do the Shy Tuna</b>
Do the Camel Walk
Do the Hip-o-crit
Ah-Hippy Hippy forward Hippy Hippy
Hippy Shake, Hippy Shake
[chorus]

Wow! That sent me back to the eighties.

(I was young once)

Ken

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Stinkpotter
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 01/23/2013 :  10:14:46  Show Profile
Ain't Google amazing?

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szymek
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Response Posted - 01/23/2013 :  10:38:58  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by CarbonSink62</i>
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I'm not saying it isn't silly, but the name refers to a dance. I'm too caucasian to know anything about the dance itself, I just know it from the B-52's song 'Dance This Mess Around':

[chorus]
Dance this mess around
Dance this mess around, 'round, 'round
Everybody goes to parties
They dance this mess around
They do the Shu-ga-loo
<b>Do the Shy Tuna</b>
Do the Camel Walk
Do the Hip-o-crit
Ah-Hippy Hippy forward Hippy Hippy
Hippy Shake, Hippy Shake
[chorus]

Wow! That sent me back to the eighties.

(I was young once)

Ken

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Haha I think back in the day when i bought the boat i stumbled on that song when i was searching the name. But I figured... nahhh.. there's gotta be something else.

I just listened to this song now.. haha.. goes way back.... but very cool. I guess one of the POs must of been huge fan of B-52s and maybe this is the original name. I know that me and 2 previous owners never changed the name... so that takes me back to mid 90s. Now I'm glad i never changed the name.

Do the Shy Tuna dance !! (I'm dancing now - probably bad mental picture)

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CarbonSink62
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Response Posted - 01/23/2013 :  11:24:35  Show Profile
'Camel Walk' is also a good boat name.

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keeldad
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Response Posted - 01/29/2013 :  19:07:22  Show Profile
Run a search on the phrase "tough c25" on the 25/250 forum and check out the pictures of the 'Emery C". I changed the name to "Emery C" after I bought her. We went through the appropriate name changing ceremony complete with the "good" champagne. After viewing the pictures of our boat, one must conclude that a properly executed ceremony will negate any negative luck associated with a name change

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redeye
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Response Posted - 01/30/2013 :  08:46:41  Show Profile
My boat is unusual in that the original owner never named her.. and I never really had a ceremony.. so I'm not sure the name will stick.

Do I need a ceremony for a first time name???

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