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ftworthsailor
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Initially Posted - 03/04/2013 :  19:25:26  Show Profile  Visit ftworthsailor's Homepage
I am looking for some used hardware for my C-25. I need the hardware for both port and starboard upper shrouds. These include the following for each side:

locking nut
turn buckles (prefer closed body)
Lock nut
T-bolts with toggles
Clevis Pins with washer and cotter pin



Image shows open turn buckles, I prefer closed body turnbuckles.


This image shows closed turn buckles that are on my forward and aft shrouds.

Will accept partials if you only have part of this list. Must be in good condition. Its going on my family boat.....
Thanks
R


Catalina 25, Hull #779, Built 1978, FK/SR "Miss Natalie"

Catalina 25, Hull #971, Built 1979, SK/SR,"Sea Legs"

"if we get lost, we'll just pull in somewhere and ask directions."

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shnool
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Response Posted - 03/04/2013 :  20:26:13  Show Profile  Visit shnool's Homepage
I bought mine from cat direct.... http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=99

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 03/05/2013 :  04:11:48  Show Profile
i have some spare closed bodies. I replaced them with opens. How many do you need?

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 03/05/2013 :  07:53:54  Show Profile  Visit ftworthsailor's Homepage
I need two, however depending on your price, maybe one more as a spare. Do you also have the t-bolt assy that connects between the deck pin and this turnbuckle? I need two of those, as well.

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 03/05/2013 :  11:04:12  Show Profile
e-mail me your address:
my e-mail is imkeene at msn dot com.

I do not have the t-bolt assembly, I re-used those.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/05/2013 :  21:06:55  Show Profile
If Ape-X can't help you, I've got several open turnbuckles with the parts you show above. Email me at pilcherd at bellsouth dot net and we'll work something out. They were spares for the c-25 I sold last year.

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 03/06/2013 :  05:21:24  Show Profile
ftworth: I got your address and will mail out some turnbuckles to you by this weekend.

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 03/06/2013 :  18:35:24  Show Profile  Visit ftworthsailor's Homepage
Awesome! Thank you very much!! What do I owe you?

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 03/07/2013 :  05:02:15  Show Profile
Just pay it forward for someone else in need.

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 03/11/2013 :  17:20:10  Show Profile
Shipped out today, you should see by Wednesday: Only had the turnbuckles, but hope you can use them.

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Response Posted - 03/11/2013 :  18:14:26  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ftworthsailor</i>
<br />(prefer closed body)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Lots of furrowed brows around here on that one...

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 03/11/2013 :  19:54:12  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Stinkpotter</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ftworthsailor</i>
<br />(prefer closed body)<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Lots of furrowed brows around here on that one...
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I know everyone seems to like the open bodied ones better, but I'm not sure why. It's nice to be able to just pull up the SS sleeve, inspect/clean/lubricate, and slide it back down without dealing with redoing a bunch of rigging tape. Is there something I'm missing here?

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/12/2013 :  07:11:47  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by TakeFive</i>
<br />I know everyone seems to like the open bodied ones better, but I'm not sure why. It's nice to be able to just pull up the SS sleeve, inspect/clean/lubricate, and slide it back down without dealing with redoing a bunch of rigging tape. Is there something I'm missing here?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">If you're talking about <i>covered</i> turnbuckles, they're different from <i>closed-body</i> turnbuckles. Closed-bodies are typically stainless steel, which makes them prone to galling. They don't self-clean in the rain (or with a hose). They are "locked" with nuts that secretly unlock themselves. Their adjustment (especially when the nuts unlock) is not visible (unless you put a paint stripe on the threads). I've had them on a different boat--never again.

Most open-bodies (OEM on some C-25s and sold by CD) are bronze, and when you lock them with soft bronze cotter pins that wrap nicely around the body, no rigging tape is necessary (or desirable IMHO). No galling, and rain or hosing down keeps them clean, so they're essentially maintenance-free for the season. And if you do choose to use lock-nuts so you can change your rig tune, you can always see the adjustment (like before the mast somes down when a lock nut unlocks).

Whatever floats your boat (and keeps the stick up)...

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 03/12/2013 :  07:30:48  Show Profile
I was assuming that the "closed body" turnbuckles that he was referring to were the ones that Catalina supplies (and which CD disses), with a bronze bar stock, locked with cotter pins, and covered with a SS sleeve. No locknuts on those. You are correct, they are not closed body, they are just covered with a sleeve. Sorry for the confusion:

[url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=352&ParentCat=235"][/url]

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 03/12/2013 :  20:54:07  Show Profile  Visit ftworthsailor's Homepage
Nope. Closed body turnbuckle, as shown in a picture that I posted previously. They may be prone to problems, however the reason I wanted them was because that is what I have on my lower shrouds and wanted to keep them all looking the same.

I do have another queston, tho.... Do any of you use PVC pipe to cover the lower part of the shrouds. I am thinking of doing this to mine, similar to my Catalina 22.

R

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 03/13/2013 :  19:09:36  Show Profile  Visit ftworthsailor's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Ape-X</i>
<br />Shipped out today, you should see by Wednesday: Only had the turnbuckles, but hope you can use them.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Received the package today. They look GREAT ! ! ! Thank you so much ! ! !

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 03/14/2013 :  03:37:08  Show Profile
Glad you are happy! We are all looking forward to the progress pictures... :O)

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 03/14/2013 :  20:15:10  Show Profile
Yes, PVC pipe works great, especially on the forward lowers. You will need a larger size than on the C-22, in order to get over the larger turnbuckles.

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ftworthsailor
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Response Posted - 03/15/2013 :  20:13:10  Show Profile  Visit ftworthsailor's Homepage
I intended on using Schedule 40 3/4 inch PVC pipe on my shrouds. All of them. Here is a picture of my C-22 with this setup. Yes. I have 5ft PVC pipes covering all the shrouds. Works like a CHAMP on protecting my Genoa.


Edited by - ftworthsailor on 03/15/2013 20:13:42
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