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Arlyn Stewart
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Initially Posted - 04/01/2013 :  14:28:11  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
The interest in the conversions is waning with likely most who have the wheel steering option and wish the upgrade having done so. Less than a half dozen kits last year. Around seventy five boats have gotten the modification.

I'd thought that a kit shipped just before Christmas might be the last but a recent request caused ordering enough sheaves to exhaust my remaining aluminum stock. The machine work is done to ship that kit and three more with the sheaves due here tomorrow.

Beyond that, I'm unsure of ordering more aluminum and sheaves given no awareness of further demand. So, this is a heads up, those three may be the last conversion kits.

Arlyn C-250 W/B #224

N/E Texas and Great Lakes
Arlyn's Sailing Site

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 04/01/2013 :  14:35:53  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Arlyn, if you have one, I'll buy one!.
Where do I send the check?
brit in usa g1 at g mail dot com

Paul

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 04/01/2013 :  17:43:36  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Paul... sent an email via web site.

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dubedoo
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Response Posted - 04/10/2013 :  07:04:04  Show Profile
Hi Arlyn,

I'd like to order one if you still have one left. Tried emailing you at the address/link on your sailing site but was not successful. May be a problem on my end. Email sent earlier from the forum. 75 conversions....that's amazing.

Thank you!

Steve C250 #702

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Deltarat
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Response Posted - 05/07/2013 :  21:57:00  Show Profile  Visit Deltarat's Homepage
Arlin,
Do you know if anyone has used this kit on an older C25 with wheel steering? I considering converting mine and have a line on a Binnacle but was unsure of how I was going to rig the cabling to the rudder your system looks like it may be the answer.

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Response Posted - 05/09/2013 :  04:24:27  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
Arlyn,
thank you!
The kit arrived and is awaiting install after we get back from our BVI charter

Paul

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 05/10/2013 :  15:59:30  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Del...

My conversion has been used on at least one C-25. It has also been used on a few other makes of boats. What allows the design to be flexible in where it is used is that it does not require that the rudder arm be at the same height as the exit of the wires at the pedestal.

At first glance of an installation on a C-250 it can be noted that the wires exit the pedestal and run aft close to the ceiling and that the frame mounts to the aft compartment ceiling and the rudder arm is close to that plane. It doesn't have to be that way.

The rudder arm on the C25 and the other boats was lower and all that was required was to mount the frame at an angle to accommodate fair entry of the cables onto the sheeves mounted on the frame. The lines exiting the pedestal can do so at some down angle.

And... the frame does not have to be mounted level to the rudder arm. If this seems unclear... I could provide a sketch. I have lost the drawings in a computer crash that were done for the C25 and other boat installs, all of which were now several years ago.

Sorry about the late reply... I've not been checking in on the Catalina site as often as in previous years.

As a FYI, I've one kit left and beyond that am out of supplies to provide a kit and have no plans at the moment to order more as I'm simply busier with my business than I want to be. If at a later time I could get retired... I'd likely reconsider but right now I've too many irons in the fire.

Let me know if you need a sketch showing how the system could be mounted on the C-25.





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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 05/10/2013 :  18:14:54  Show Profile
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Hi Arlyn,

If you're willing to provide a sketch, I would love to have one. I've never had the chance to install the kit I got from you on my C-25, and it would be a big help if you could provide some details.

Thanks!!

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 05/12/2013 :  18:02:48  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Hey Buzz.... good to hear from you. Hope all is well.

Ok... here goes an attempt to describe and illustrate. On the C250 the transom boot entry for the steering arm is just below the aft compartment ceiling so it provides very easy mounting of the steering frame directly to the ceiling. Your C25 and a couple of other boat makes I've provided kits for, either doesn't have a ceiling to mount to or the rudder arm enters lower than the ceiling.

In those cases, what has to happen is that the rudder frame has to lowered so that the aft wire coming off the sheeves matches the level of the rudder arm attachment. The frame however then has to be angled up to present a straight line for the wires to go to the pedestal base.

A box can be built that is about 14" long and 6" or so wide and as tall as necessary to mount the frame to. The box may be under the frame or above the frame. If below the frame, the top of the box will be angled in such a way to provide the right plane for the cables and if mounted above the frame, the bottom will be angled (again, to provide the right angle for the cables to be fair on the sheaves.

If the box is below the frame, the frame will be inverted. Also see the drawings and pictures on my web site of an installation.

btw, I'm still flying the PT-19... it has been a good model.


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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 05/12/2013 :  18:26:10  Show Profile
Hi Arlyn,

THANK YOU!! I really appreciate your explanation and the sketch you made ... they've given me some good ideas for installing the steering mod.

I have had to move to the Dallas area to find work. <i>Freya</i> is still stored in San Antonio until I can buy a house and get established up here. The poor girl needs some work because of the prolonged storage, but I'm going to get her in the water again one of these days if it's the last thing I do. I just love that old tub of a boat, and I plan to keep her 'til my last breath.

BTW, I'm really glad to hear you're flying the PT-19 ... that makes my day!

Thanks again!

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Deltarat
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Response Posted - 05/15/2013 :  10:50:13  Show Profile  Visit Deltarat's Homepage
Arlyn, thanks for the response, I'd definitely be interested in your kit could you e-mail me an idea of the cost including shipping to Sacramento Ca.
thanks again
deltaratrat64 at comcast dot net

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Response Posted - 05/20/2013 :  14:14:32  Show Profile  Visit Deltarat's Homepage
Sorry make that
deltarat64 @ comcast.net

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