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MattL
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Initially Posted - 01/28/2003 :  15:30:06  Show Profile
Hello All,
I will be in SF bay next month on the 7th till Sunday. Will be with 6 other boats from our sailing club. If anyone wants to join in let me know.

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 01/28/2003 :  23:31:03  Show Profile
Thanks for the invitation! I might be interested. Our club - Catalina 22 Fleet 4 - will be doing a SF Bay cruise over President's Day weekend, launching from Richmond. I could just get a slip in Richmond for the whole month and do both cruises. This all depends on the weather though. I'll go if my yard dries out and the mud hardens up enough to pull the boat out. If it doesn't rain anymore before then, I can probably make it. I was supposed to go to Monterey two weekends ago, and we got the truck stuck halfway into the yard and couldn't get to where the boat is parked, mud still too wet and slippery. What is the itinerary?



Larry Charlot
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jwilliams
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 :  00:02:52  Show Profile
Hey Matt/Brigitte,

Probably both my Buddy Paul (Sparky) and me (Hey Jude) would be pleased to try to meet up with yuz. Where will you launch from? (I'm assuming you will trailer in).

Now, for the bad news. There has been scarcely a puff on the bay in the last 4 weeks, barring the two storms. We are in Brisbane Marina, and there has not been enough wind for us to put up the sails for more than an hour. We are 7 miles south of the Bay Bridge and have been out every weekend since Dec. Today, I just sculled (with my new yuloh) for two hours. Let's hope there is more wind when you come.

In the spring-summer-fall, we sail every weekend, usually to Sausalito or around Angel Island from Brisbane. It is about 28 miles round trip. But...we have wind, especially in the pm.

Pray for wind.

Jim Williams
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Half Moon Bay, CA



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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 :  10:10:21  Show Profile
Well, how's that yuloh working out?

Kind of a fluky year for wind up here on Humboldt Bay too.. this Winter it seems that there are only two conditions... blowing 40 or dead calm.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
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MattL
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Response Posted - 01/29/2003 :  13:16:53  Show Profile
Here is the intenerary I made up. I have reservations at Ballina Isla for the 7th for 5 boats, one member is there already with a Cal 34, another is in Sausalito with a 40' something. I have reservations for 5 boats now at South Beach harbor, I need to make two more tomorrow when the guy is there. If you would like I could ask for an extra.
The Don Pedro trip will be the last week end of March, not when the report says. At our next club meeting I will check to see if they want to get the house boats, should be fun.

Inventory for the trip:
Feb. 7, Friday: Those that can leave this day will meet at the boat ramp by Ballina Isle and launch boats and check into the marina. Dinner will be at the Yacht club, or nearby restaurant.
Feb. 8, Saturday: After breakfast we will head out toward San Francisco and South Beach Harbor. Check in with the harbormaster, depending on time we can explore SF, or go out for a little sail. Dinner will be someplace in the city.
Feb. 9, Sunday: Lets head out early for a trip to Angle Island. There should be light winds, so we will probably have to do some motoring to get to the park but it is well worth it. The wind should pick up in the afternoon for the down wind trip back to Alameda. When we get back we can either load up and head home or stay an extra night.
Feb. 10, in the morning take a leisurely cruise around the bay, back to the boat ramp and then head home.

March Trip: Don Pedro; The date for this one is not set yet, we are coordinating the Red Cross training with the trip. At the suggestion of Ed Green I looked into the possibility of renting a houseboat to use as a base of operation for the weekend. There is a 44’ and tow 50’ boats available. 44’ is $795 for a three day weekend, one 50’ is $890 the other is $390. If we have 10 couples going, there can be 6 or 8 people on the houseboats per size. That would be $79 / couple with some sleeping on their boat. This would be very cool I think because we could anchor out in a remote spot and have showers etc.
As we get the date set I will let you know more.



Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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tmhansen
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Response Posted - 01/30/2003 :  02:41:10  Show Profile  Visit tmhansen's Homepage
Sounds like a great trip. Our boat is still a work in progress. We have eradicated as much of the mold as we will ever be able to and are now working on the long list of things to fix.

I hope you have some wind, usually this time of year the bay is dead calm.

Matt, looking over your post on how to raise your mast I was wondering how much your boat draws? Or, how high is the water line when the boat is on the trailer? And then, do you use an extension and if so how long? Ours is at 5' on the trailer. We have a long tongue and then a 10' extension but I have not had a chance to try it out yet.

Todd Hansen
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MattL
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Response Posted - 01/30/2003 :  11:28:36  Show Profile
Hi Todd,
I have the finn keel, according to the poop sheet it draws 4 feet. Sitting on the trailer when the boat was hooked up to our jeep grand cherokee the water line is at the roof line of the auto. I do not have an extension, when the trailer was made trailrite guy told me that the weight was too large to legally put on ane extinsion. What I use is two 20' tow straps looped together. With one strap I was backing into the water a little. Two straps keeps the truck we use out of the water and slippery ramp. In all honesty I would say that it is not that much extra work, just dropping the hitch with tow stap attached first, drive forward to take out slack and remove chocks. Back up into the water then pull forward chock, and back up to re-attach the trailer. When we went to Moss Landing at the end of summer the bolts holding the bow stopper came a little loose and that whole part slid forward a couple of inches, since then the boat sits at a more level position. Serindipity is cool. I check all bolts more frequently now though.


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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 01/30/2003 :  12:42:49  Show Profile
<font color=blue>What I use is two 20' tow straps looped together ...

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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Hi Matt,

I would like to start using the same system when I launch. I was wondering, what sort of wheel do you have on the tongue of your trailer? Does it pivot, or do you lock it in place while you're using the ropes?

I don't trust the stock wheel on my trailer's tongue ... it's a small metal thing that doesn't look too stout to me ... I'd like to know what to replace it with.

Thanks!

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"
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MattL
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Response Posted - 01/30/2003 :  14:25:33  Show Profile
Buzz,
When I had the trailer built I had them put on an extra wheel specific for the job. $100 extra. There are two metal tabs on each side of the tongue, the wheel bolts on to this, it is a HEAVY duty wheel that does not pivot. You can steer by pushing and pulling on the toungue as you go down, I remove the regular toungue jack wheel, because as you said it is light weight and I don't want to wreck it. I destroyed the wheel on the admrials horse trailer this way,<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> forgot to lift it when I drove off. If you want I can take some photos of it and post them tomorrow.

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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Shelby
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Response Posted - 01/30/2003 :  18:26:05  Show Profile
Matt,

I would be interested in seeing pictures of the wheel configuration..mine looks like it has seen better days.

Tks,
Shelby
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 :  00:40:20  Show Profile
<font color=blue>Buzz,
When I had the trailer built I had them put on an extra wheel specific for the job ... If you want I can take some photos of it and post them tomorrow.

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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FK/SR _/)
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That would be GREAT ... thanks!!

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"
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MattL
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 :  15:00:04  Show Profile
Hi Buzz,
I forgot to take the digital camera home, so these are polorides I took this morning. It was kind of dark so the long shot isn't so hot but it shows the distance from the hitch to the boat. Remember this does not extend.
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3df10b3127cce947f19014b3e0000001610" border=0>

The next photo shows the tab on the left side of the hitch. The wheel has two bolts to go through each tab.
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3df10b3127cce947f190f4b300000001610" border=0>

The Last photo is a side view, I only attached one bolt so it is kind of hanging a little lopsided. You can also sort of make out the zerk fitting on the wheel too. The wheel is a bit larger and a couple of lbs heaver than the regular toungue wheel. All and all I would say it has been worth the extra boat unit to get it.
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3df10b3127cce947f190d4b320000001610" border=0>

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 :  15:31:15  Show Profile
Thanks Matt ... that's a big help!

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"
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MattL
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Response Posted - 02/06/2003 :  18:42:42  Show Profile
Most of our group should get to Alameda around 3 tomorrow to get the boats in the water and then spend the night at Ballina Isla marina F and E docks.
Saturday will sail to the city to South Beach Harbor B dock with one in A dock.
If anyone is around give a holler on the radio or send me an e-mail for my cell number. BrigitteMatt@cs.com or work MLoeffler@losbanosusd.k12.ca.us

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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