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hewebb
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Initially Posted - 04/19/2013 : 04:23:26

I have a 1988 Catalina 25 w/ diesel inboard that I cannot find a way to get the engine out of the boat. It is loose from the mounts. I slid it into the lazaret but it will not come through the opening at the top. Any one out there that has removed one that can give me a clue? None of the openings are large enough to come through, I have removed the alternator.

1988 WK/SR w/inboard diesel Joe Pool Lake
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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 04/19/2013 : 04:32:30

I suppose you will have to disassemble all that wooden engine box?

Post some pictures.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 04/19/2013 : 04:51:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by hewebb
 I have a 1988 Catalina 25 w/ diesel inboard that I cannot find a way to get the engine out of the boat. It is loose from the mounts. I slid it into the lazaret but it will not come through the opening at the top. Any one out there that has removed one that can give me a clue? None of the openings are large enough to come through, I have removed the alternator.

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I have never removed an inboard engine, but have seen quite a few removed by my marina and elsewhere, and every one of them was removed through the main hatch. Often, they use block and tackle attached to the boat's boom to lift the engine out. My marina has a hoist attached to their travelift that can lift a heavy engine. If all else fails, call Catalina. They are generous with their advice.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 04/19/2013 : 05:30:52

So you don't have a pop-top? I'd be surprised if Catalina put the engine in before putting the deck molding on, in a way that makes it absolutely permanent... but crazy things happen. I'd definitely talk to them.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/19/2013 : 13:39:29

I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, I would expect that they did install the engine before adding the deck/cockpit to the hull. Be much easier to drop it in and connect everything. I also agree, call Catalina.
Shouldn't need a pop-top. I assume you have already removed the ladder. Pics would help.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 04/19/2013 : 14:08:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dmpilc
 I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, I would expect that they did install the engine before adding the deck/cockpit to the hull. Be much easier to drop it in and connect everything. I also agree, call Catalina.
Shouldn't need a pop-top. I assume you have already removed the ladder. Pics would help.
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Response Posted - 04/19/2013 : 14:53:34

When I helped a friend pull a diesel out of his 43' Polaris, we built a scaffold out of 4x4 lumber high enough to use a chain fall to raise the engine up all the way out of the cabin to just slightly above the level of the deck. Then we used his boom (reinforced with jib & staysail halyards spread along it) to move it onto the dock. I'm not sure how he moved it from the dock because that happened a few days later. He had the yard he was eventually towed over to crane the new engine into place (much easier).

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 04/19/2013 : 16:19:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by delliottg
 When I helped a friend pull a diesel out of his 43' Polaris, we built a scaffold out of 4x4 lumber high enough to use a chain fall to raise the engine up all the way out of the cabin to just slightly above the level of the deck. Then we used his boom (reinforced with jib & staysail halyards spread along it) to move it onto the dock. I'm not sure how he moved it from the dock because that happened a few days later. He had the yard he was eventually towed over to crane the new engine into place (much easier).
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It would be easier to rent a forklift with 6' or 8' forks if the boat is on the hard.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/20/2013 : 05:01:14

Found this in the archives. Pics near the end:
http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/forum/pop_printer_friendly.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=23615

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 04/20/2013 : 05:21:01

Gary

I have actually thought about your suggestion. (I have a small Stihl)

Next effort will be to some how get it on its side and try to slide out into the quarter berth. Measurements indicate that that may work. If Not. Next will be to remove more of the engine to make it smaller. Very difficult to get to some of the components with engine in the boat. The hole in the starboard side of the engine compartment is much larger than the one on the port side so we assumed that that was the way it was to come out. Believe it or not the plywood that enclosed the forward part of the engine compartment on the starboard side will not come out of the hatch at the top of the lazaret.

I have been on hold to CD, maybe next week I will get through.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 04/20/2013 : 06:00:29

Catalina DIrect and Catalina aren't the same company. I'd call Catalina.

I haven't looked at a Catalina 25 inboard setup, but on all of the others that I've seen the engine is installed and removed from the front, not the side. Can you remove the companionway stairs and the board in front of the engine, then slide it out that way? It should then come up through the companionway.

Why are you removing it?

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Response Posted - 04/20/2013 : 06:59:36

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by awetmore
 ...Can you remove the companionway stairs and the board in front of the engine, then slide it out that way? It should then come up through the companionway.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's where I was heading with the pop-top question. Definitely call Catalina Yachts, not Catalina Direct.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 04/20/2013 : 08:04:16

kent@catalinayachts.com

Kent is very helpful

Good luck

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 04/21/2013 : 04:03:17

OJ

Thanks for the info. I have sent him an e-mail

awetmore.

I have removed all the wood possible from around the engine compartment, including the stairs. It overheated and the compression has lowered to the point it is hard to start, also I found pieces of aluminum in the oil filter. I have located a rebuilt engine so decided to replace the existing.

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