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John J.
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Initially Posted - 01/31/2003 : 16:59:21

I know the subject of teak refinishing has been all but worn out on this forum, probably to the point of ad nauseam for a few, however I would like to get some feedback on your experiences with the different cetol products i.e. Which do you like? they have a satin, light satin, and a gloss. Any preferences as far as ease of application or durability? I prefer to have the teak as natural in color as possible so i'm leaning towards the light. What seems to be the concensus on the gloss vs.satin finish? Also, West Marine has a product called"WoodPro",they claimis made by the same people(Sikkens), and is essentially the same productyet extremely transparent. Anybody tried it?....Thanks for your comments.

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CatalinaGuy
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 17:36:37

I have used the satin and the gloss, but not the light. The satin isn't too dark in my opinion, and it definitely shows the natural grain through the finish real well. I only use Cetol on the exterior teak though. My interior teak is varnished.

The varnish definitely has the best look, but the Cetol satin is very close. The gloss is not applied on it's own, but after "at least two" coats of satin or light. I used two coats of satin, followed by two coats of gloss. It looks awesome to me!

Doug Hibberd, 'Shiraz'
C25 SK/SR 1983
Austin, TX

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 17:47:20

John - I agree with Doug. I used the satin (3 coats) with 2 coats of gloss on top. It lasts almost 2 years in the Texas heat. The idea of topping with gloss is twofold - it does give it a deeper look, and if any lines rub over it they wear away the gloss and leave the underlying color intact until touch up.
Derek

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marzluff
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 18:08:19

I've used the cetol gloss alone for exterior teak. I think it looks a bit "plastic". Using it over a couple coats of semi sounds like a better idea. I would still cover it whenever possible to protect from sun damage

Mike
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 18:28:18

John,

You will find that Cetol is a fan favorite here on this forum with a few preferring more exotic finsihes. It all boils down to personal preference and how much work you want to do.

I like Cetol for exterior teak because this product was designed with me in mind. Cetol suits me because I'm basically a lazy person and anything that is easy and fast has my vote. It is easy to apply and virtually maintenance free. I've only used the Cetol satin, because I prefer the more subdued finish over the high gloss(I also put a satin finish on my home built end tables, it kind of gives them that not so new look). The satin finish falls between the high gloss and the fresh well oiled teak look.

<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3df32b3127cce93e77ec9dbf70000001610" border=0>

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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John J.
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 18:48:46

Don, I think,as you said the satin would appeal to me because it probably has a softer look. I'm curious, did you use "light" or regular (I'm not refering to the beer you were drinking while you were refinishing) ?. In the picture the wood looks somewhat reddish. Is this from pigmentation in the cetol or is it just from lighting,etc?

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 19:47:14

I used the regular satin Cetol and as to the reddish pigmentation in the picture, that is mostly due to the scanning process(I'm looking at the actual photo). The teak does have a reddish brown or brownish red look to it, but not as red as the posted picture. The actual teak is also much lighter in tone than the darker photo(The photo was taken on an overcast day). Also Cetol does not cover the grain of the teak and different pieces of teak will have different color/tones. You can see this in the photo(light and dark areas in the photo are individual pieces of teak).

I have not tried the Cetol light so I can't comment on how it looks, but I'm quite happy with the results of the regular satin Cetol. From what I've read, Cetol Light is the result of putting less UV inhibitors(iron oxide) in the product to reduce the level of pigmentation. Sunlight and weather are the enemies of a finish so I used the regular full strength stuff, because I'm using Cetol for it's protective qualities.

If the softer look is what you prefer(as do I), then use the satin. Even if you decide to go gloss you still have to use regular/light Cetol because the gloss is only an overcoat.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 01/31/2003 : 21:51:41

I used Cetol satin on all of "Quiet Time"'s wood, inside and out. I like the dark color. I put three coats on the interior bulkheads, cabinetry, and pinrail trim pieces, and it looked glorious! It made that faded 17-year old plywood and teak absolutely glow. Since Cetol lasts two years outside in the full sun, I figure it will last virtually forever on the interior wood. I haven't tried the gloss Cetol.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA

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John J.
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Response Posted - 02/01/2003 : 05:31:46

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Mark Maxwell
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Response Posted - 02/02/2003 : 02:28:07

John,

Wood Pro is exactly the same stuff. Just packaged for West Marine. Store brand instead of name brand. Save a few bux. I used it 2 years ago and it still looks great. I went with 3 coats of the satin finish as well.

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Mark-
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Bakersfield, CA.

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RoofRoof
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 16:02:11

I tried the Satin Cetol. I found it too dark and covered up the real teak grain. After sanding it off, I used the Light. I think we did 2 coats of Light, then covered it with 3 coats of Gloss.

This shows the true teak grain, and gives it lots of UV protection.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 02/04/2003 : 18:13:29

John J. - Cee Tol you it wasn't easy <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Derek

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/05/2003 : 15:03:19

I don't know how valid this is, it's a "Tip of the Day" submission from Sailnet,

<i>"A satin finish on teak handholds and toerails makes them less slippery and easier to maintain."</i>

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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