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Champipple
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Initially Posted - 02/08/2003 : 14:37:31

I went to my first meeting at the yacht club, where there was a special announcement made regarding some of the on the water happenings we could expect this next season since we are a border state. One of the announcements pertained to any club members who held a captains license.

According to what was said, The US Coast Guard, effective sometime yesterday, revoked the Captains licenses of anyone not in the military had them revoked pending a background investigation. Regardless of whether you had a 6 pack license or a 100 ton ore boat.

I have not been able to find anything regarding this at either the department of transportation (old boss of coast guard), the department of homeland security (new boss of coast guard) or the coast guard website itself. Has anyone else heard about this or seen anything regarding it. I don't want to insinuate that the commodore of the Yacht Club is BSing us, after all it was a meeting of about 100+ educated adults. But it does seem a little big to swallow....

I could use more details.

DW

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 02/08/2003 : 15:43:53

Duane:
Go to www.tsa.gov where you can e-mail them with your question.
Background checks are required for all commercial pilots, now. Contract pilots we used in the past had to stop working for us until background checks could be established. Employees with less than ten years employment also underwent TSA background checks.
All this wil take getting used to.
Mark L.

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 02/09/2003 : 09:07:23

HI,

I just found, in a box in my garage, my old copy of George Orwell's "1984". No kidding.

The thought police and John Poindexter will probably come and take it from me.

Go "W".

PW

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 02/09/2003 : 09:29:47

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>All this will take getting used to <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Please remember this old saying.

"Tyranny is the greatest threat to Democracy and Democracy is the greatest enemy of tyranny".

I beleive we are facing tyranny on the home front.

I'm not gonna "get used" to any of this. We have been too passive for too long.

It's our individual duty as Americans to stand up to tyrants and defend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I'm sick of this stuff thats going on right now. Especially this "W" mentality that if you oppose him your not a Christian or American.

This is not unlike the mentality of Saddam. Birds of a feather?

The Founders would be spinning in their graves.

PW, DAMMIT!

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 02/09/2003 : 11:15:01

Paul,

Political rants are inappropriate on this forum. The subject here is sailing. One of the qualities that makes this forum special is that, even when the participants disagree, we all try hard to treat each other with respect. Many people feel so strongly about politics that they are incapable of discussing the subject dispassionately, and they generally resort to name-calling and denigration of each other. We’re all friends here. Let’s keep it that way.

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 02/09/2003 : 12:06:55

Steve,

I understand your point. The "other" sailing forum gets very ugly sometimes and we all have been good at avioding passionate discussions.

By the way, I didn't attack anyone.

Maybe we should start a mailing list to air this stuff out.

I give up.

Goodby.

PW

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 02/09/2003 : 12:12:35

Perhaps the board could have an 'off-topic' area for such discussions.

Rules for any such area must stress that any discourse remains polite, sticks to the facts and personal attacks will not be tolerated. Of course, those who didn't care to visit that area wouldn't have to.

That said, I agree that momentous events are in play that will shape not just the US, but the future of the planet, or perhaps it's continued existence.

I think that many people (including myself) are becoming alarmed at the actions of our government to the point that they feel it is important to involve others in discourse.. no matter what the forum.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/09/2003 : 12:13:44

We're living in a new world. It used to be that to attack the US, a country would have to launch a high-tech missile from the other side of the world, or set up a shorter-range missile base in Cuba, or fly squadrons of bombers over the pole, or launch from a stealthy, nuclear powered submarine...

Now, the attackers aren't "countries", and the methods aren't high-tech or even military. If we are nuked, it's likely that it will be from the hold of a ship that casually docks in New York Harbor, Galveston Bay, San Fransisco, or Baltimore. I predicted that over 30 years ago--I hope I'm wrong, but I'd rather see some precautions taken to make it a little more difficult.

Then, we might want to start looking at ways to keep so many people from hating us so much. (OOPS, sorry, no politics!! <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle> )

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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jellyfish
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Response Posted - 02/10/2003 : 12:50:31

Paul, I often post on a Jimmy Buffett "parrothead" web site. they have a political thread over there. log in to CoBo.org and fire away!

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 02/10/2003 : 13:23:04

Paul, I appreciate your thoughtful response to my previous post. I was scared to death that you might cast aspersions on my lineage. <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> Ouch!

The original topic that Duane raised is the temporary revocation of some captain's licenses, pending a background investigation, to ensure that no licensed captain is a national security threat. That action of the government affects some of our members, and I think it is legitimate for us to discuss the pros and cons of that governmental action on this forum. That's the kind of discussion that most people are looking for on this forum.

But, if the liberals/Democrats try to blame it on George W., the conservatives/Republicans will undoubtedly call it a result of the inept Clinton administration, that allowed people to apply for captain's licenses without undergoing a security check in the first place. Next, the Dems will claim that George didn't really win the presidential election, and the Reps will want to talk about Clinton and "the Devil in the blue dress." Neither side will ever "win" those arguments, because they are emotional, not intellectual. There is no "right" answer. There is only the answer that makes us each feel emotionally comfortable. People who check in on this forum aren't looking for that kind of discussion.

There are an infinite number of political forums on the web, where people can chat about political issues. Or, better yet, start a volatile political discussion on a power boater's website, and then sit back and watch the wrenches fly! <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

Steve Milby "Captiva Wind" C-25 T/FK #2554

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/10/2003 : 22:31:21

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
...Or, better yet, start a volatile political discussion on a power boater's website, and then sit back and watch the wrenches fly!<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>
They don't throw wrenches--they throw bourbon bottles!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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