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dasreboot
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Initially Posted - 10/20/2013 : 16:47:10

i have a second helm location when it rains! under the forward hatch with my autopilot remote. all i need is plastic cover kinda feel like im in an ironclad.

Todd Lewis
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Edited by - dasreboot on 10/21/2013 16:35:24

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Response Posted - 10/20/2013 : 18:54:21

Sorry to complain, but your picture is too big. The rest of this thread will be off most of our screens (except Frank Hopper's IMAX screen).

Now a question: You can change directions from that location, but can you control the boat--for example to react to a big gust, a shift, or, under power, to change speed to avoid hitting a boat or an object in the water? I get the feeling of a person driving a car with a steering wheel, no accelerator pedal, and no brake.

If you're talking about 50 miles off-shore with radar and/or AIS, then... carry on.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 10/20/2013 19:01:49

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Response Posted - 10/20/2013 : 19:25:52

I don't understand the furler, two lines and a drum, neither line seems to go to the drum. And that is a serious splat of poo!

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Response Posted - 10/20/2013 : 20:22:07

See--Frank saw it--the rest of us didn't.

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Response Posted - 10/20/2013 : 20:37:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
 Sorry to complain, but your picture is too big. The rest of this thread will be off most of our screens (except Frank Hopper's IMAX screen).
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I was going to edit the post and fix the picture size, and so took a look at the original photo up on Imgur. If you look there, it's normal sized (fits on my 15" craptop), but on Imgur, you can en-biggen-ate the picture by clicking on it, and that's the size that's showing up here. Not sure why. But it would be nice if dasreboot could size the picture to about 1/4 what it currently is, so everyone can read the thread easily.

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Response Posted - 10/20/2013 : 20:51:53

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by pastmember
 I don't understand the furler, two lines and a drum, neither line seems to go to the drum. And that is a serious splat of poo!
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If you look closely the blue line runs under the furler drum to a block in front of the drum and then goes up somewhere (maybe an adjustable tack line for a spinnaker)?

The black line runs through the block on the deck and then up into the drum (the black line "appears" to intersect the blue line about halfway between the deck block and the furler drum).

Can't believe you couldn't see that on your IMAX screen!

Edited by - GaryB on 10/20/2013 20:59:24

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Response Posted - 10/21/2013 : 03:49:15

sorry cant get to imgur at work here, can fix this evening. yep blue line is adjustable tack. as to the poo, yep marina invaded by seagulls. bot comes out next week (marina rules) so no point in cleaning now. :)

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Response Posted - 10/21/2013 : 08:37:18

My gamma and screen brightness make the two lines look the same color; black.
But in Photoshop I played with it and see the larger line on top is blue and the
smaller line below is black with a reddish/orange tick.

Edited by - pastmember on 10/21/2013 08:38:33

dasreboot
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Response Posted - 10/21/2013 : 16:36:16

add an l after the first part of the filename and you get a large thumbnail in imgur.

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Response Posted - 10/21/2013 : 17:27:03

Nice fix, looks great now on my craptop. Thanks for fixing it.

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Response Posted - 10/21/2013 : 19:15:41

Much better! (Now Frank has to get his glasses.)

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Lee Panza
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Response Posted - 10/22/2013 : 08:03:19

Funny how we sometimes get off on a tangent from the original post, but I'd like to suggest that you consider relocating that turning block where the furler line turns up to the drum. I can't really tell from the photo, but if that line doesn't exit the drum perpendicular to the forestay you're probably introducing friction that requires add'l. effort to furl when the wind is up and causing the furling line to fray over time. It could also cause the line to bunch up at the bottom of the drum instead of winding evenly over the full height of the drum. That last point may not be an issue with your particular furler model, but it's important to us with enclosed drums: I had to relocate the turning block on mine because the bunching was causing the drum to bind inside the shell.

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Response Posted - 10/22/2013 : 09:30:58

Regarding autopilots, here's what I call ironic. In the safety notices in the front of the ST1000+ Owner's Manual, along with stating the need to maintain a permanent watch while under autopilot, to which I mostly agree, it also states, and this is verbatim with their emphasis, not mine,..."Ensure that someone is present at the helm AT ALL TIMES, to take manual control in an emergency"

Well, it seems to me if you had someone at the helm at all times, you wouldn't have much need for an autopilot???

Edited by - dlucier on 10/22/2013 09:31:55

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Response Posted - 10/22/2013 : 10:42:05

I guess you can eat lunch or tend sheets or something in the cockpit :)

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Response Posted - 10/22/2013 : 10:52:50

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dlucier
 Regarding autopilots, here's what I call ironic. In the safety notices in the front of the ST1000+ Owner's Manual, along with stating the need to maintain a permanent watch while under autopilot, to which I mostly agree, it also states, and this is verbatim with their emphasis, not mine,..."Ensure that someone is present at the helm AT ALL TIMES, to take manual control in an emergency"

Well, it seems to me if you had someone at the helm at all times, you wouldn't have much need for an autopilot???
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's purely for reference in a trial. "Would the defendent please be so kind as to read the notice at the top of page 3..."

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 10/22/2013 10:57:06

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Response Posted - 10/22/2013 : 12:45:13

Yes, but can you imagine the looks on the jurists faces when the manufacturer has to explain why his company markets a tillerpilot remote control unit only to advise that it should not be used to remotely control the tillerpilot.

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