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Catspause
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Initially Posted - 02/14/2003 : 19:40:12

Hi to all of you.

I am relocating to Sacramento, CA soon and need to move my swing keel Catalina 25 from Dana Point to the SF Bay area. Unfortunately, I sold the trailer several years ago. Does anywone have a trailer I could rent from you or do you have any idea of where to locate one for rent?

Thank you.

Catspause aka as Jan

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nate
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Response Posted - 02/15/2003 : 09:45:07

Jan,
I live in Vegas and have a roller trailer for my 1987 wing keel. It's not exactly next door but you are welcome to use it.

Nate Adams
C25 #5695 WK/SR/Trad
"Heeling Properties"
Lake Mead, NV

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 02/15/2003 : 22:43:25

Jan - If you would like to share your sailing with a great group of people when you move to Sacramento, we are Catalina 22 Fleet 4. We do most of our summer cruises at Folsom Lake, and winter cruises in San Francisco Bay and Monterey Bay. We generally go on "away" cruises to Lake Tahoe, Clearlake, and the San Joaquin Delta over the holiday weekends. We do a big summer cruise to the San Juan/Gulf Islands every year or every other year depending on interest. Our members have a wide variety of boats, from Santana 20's to a Hunter 42, with a bunch of Catalina 25's and 250's, so we are not exclusively Catalina 22's. When you get settled in, we would like to invite you to attend one of our monthly meetings to meet "the gang". We have a web site at: http://www.catalinayachts.org/Fleet4/ which has more information.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/16/2003 : 02:41:23

Hello, Jan. This is Gary Norgan
I bought your trailer...
Right now my C25 wing is sitting on the trailer in my yard. I plan on putting it in Perris or Skinner Lake soon but have no set agenda as yet. How soon are you planning on needing a trailer?
I put 64 new rollers on it and replaced all brakes and brake lines and brake cylinder. Expensive. No new tires but the old ones look to be in good condition still.
You are welcome to use it in the event I can get it launched.
Gary in Hemet

Gary & Susan Norgan
C25 tall/wing
Classical Cat #5944
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/16/2003 : 10:48:17

"Hello, Jan. This is Gary Norgan
I bought your trailer..."

Geez, what a small world.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Cradled on the hard, 200ft from Lake Erie

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Response Posted - 02/16/2003 : 11:07:01

Geez, what a small world.

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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Geez, what a friendly Catalina world ... I am impressed. Nate & Gary made very generous offers, and Larry invited Jan to join his sailing group ... y'all get gold stars from me!

I wonder if other boat owners' groups are this friendly ... ? I doubt it.

Buzz Maring, C-25 SK/SR #68, "Freya"
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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 02/16/2003 : 12:35:55

Jan - I might be getting a slip at Owl Harbor in a couple of weeks, which would free up my trailer. "Quiet Time" is a swing keel, which means your boat should fit on the trailer without needing any adjustments. If I get this slip, we could move your boat on my trailer. Do you have a marina picked out yet? One thing to keep in mind is that any SF Bay Area marina will be salt water; not the best environment for a swing keel Catalina 22 or 25, at least for long-term storage. I will put "Quiet Time" in salt water for short periods, one or two months maybe, but I know even this is causing more rapid degradation of the keel and related hardware. If this is a concern for you, consider a marina in the Sacramento/San Joaquin River Delta. The upper boundary between fresh and salt water is approximately at the Antioch Bridge over Suisun Bay (look for state route 160 on a map or chart, a little east of the city of Antioch). Any marina east (upstream) of the Antioch Bridge will be fresh water year round.
Other benefits: Delta marina slips tend to be a little less expensive than the average for SF Bay slips, the Delta is half the distance to drive to from Sacramento, and you can go swimming in the summer months. There is also Folsom Lake, but that marina has a several-year waiting list. You probably want to get on the waiting list anyway, it doesn't cost anything, then when your name comes up, you can put your boat on the lake if you want to.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/16/2003 : 16:26:06

Larry, Jan will probably say this soon but while I'm online: Jan's boat is in Dana Point Harbor, a VERY salty place, so she probably has been watching her swing keel "dissolve" into the Pacific Ocean for some time...
Someday I, too, will be moving up to the Delta region and/or just doing a summer cruise there, so my wife and I will be looking for a marina and folks to share our sailing with. I wanted to do a trip there with the C25 last summer but it got postponed due to other trips we planned. I am anxious to try out that area for sailing and cruising. I am looking at a picture I have pinned to my bulletin board of an ad for Hidden Harbor Marina. Looks to be a great spot. They have a nice website that shows what's there. And it is "sailboats only". www.hiddenharbormarina.com is their address.
Someday, soon, I hope.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Gary & Susan Norgan
C25 tall/wing
Classical Cat #5944
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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 01:52:49

A couple of the folks in our club (Catalina 22 Cleet 4) have kept their boats at Hidden Harbor in the past, and say it is very nice, but at $143/mo, it'a a little above my budget cap. Owl Harbor has side ties at $87 month, which I can better afford, plus at least one of our Fleet 4 members is already there. I notice "Classical Cat" has a hull number very close to that of two C-25's in our fleet, #5873, which is a WK/SR with the inboard diesel, and #5960, which is a WK with an outboard, I think. These late model wing keel 25's are lovely boats, I would like to move into one eventually.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA

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Catspause
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Response Posted - 02/18/2003 : 11:27:55

Wow -

Am I ever impressed with the response to my bulletin! And talk about friendly Catalina folks! To Nate, Larry, Gary and Susan, Don, and Buzz - thank you all for responding. Nate, Gary and Susan, and Larry - I will take you up on your offer to use one of your trailers - which ever one works out at the time. Thank you so much.

Gary and Susan - I remember you well - it was traumatic selling the trailer, however, couldn't have sold it to nicer folks. Never thought I would need one again. At that time, I thought I would go up in size and just sell Catspause II in the water. However, I've decided that a 25 is just about right for me to maintain and single hand when I need to. I'm going to keep it, though, and move it to some place "up there". Any ideas are welcome. I will check out the Hidden Harbor website. I do love the Delta and swmimming off the boat which I used to do when I had Catspause and Catspause II in Lake Don Pedro for 4 years. I also have sailed Folsom (sold my wonderful Catspause {Catalina 22} to someone there). I also sailed the Bay for 10 years in a Balboa 16 and the Catalina 22. Needless to say I am anxious to get back up there. As to when - am putting my condo on the market in two weeks and then driving up to Sac to buy a house. So it should be in a few months or less.

As far as Catspause II wasting away in the salt water, I have the bottom cleaned every month and the diver checks the keel and bottom for blisters, etc. In fact, he just replaced the zinc. And of course, I pull the boat have the bottom painted every 3 years at least. I agree, salt water is not easy on a boat and it takes a lot to maintain not only what's under water, but what's above like the metal rigging, etc.

And Larry - thank you so much for your invitation to meet the gang. I will definitely do that! I was a member of a 22/25 fleet in the Bay Area for a few years and miss the comraderie. Folks in my marina are certainly nice - but it just isn't the same.

I am excited about moving north. If any of you wish to contact me personally, you can reach me at jgwynn@cox.net or (949) 713-6664. Please feel free to do that. Thank you all. I'll keep in touch by this bulletin board also.

Catspause II aka Jan

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/19/2003 : 22:12:37

Hey, Larry...where exactly is this Owl Harbor? Probably near Sacrapimento? <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>[Sorry...we're Laker fans..no hard feelings, just a little nudge..after all, Vlade the Flop used to be a Laker where he perfected his game. Too bad he got traded because he was always a good show to watch <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>].
Jan, let us know when so we can plan to have the boat somewhere.
Gary

Gary & Susan Norgan
C25 tall/wing
Classical Cat #5944
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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 02/20/2003 : 00:12:13

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Hey, Larry...where exactly is this Owl Harbor? <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

Owl Harbor is in Seven Mile Slough, about 1 mile back from the Sam Joaquin River. Here is a link to the Maptech.com Mapserver which should show the location on a USGS Topo Map:

http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepage/index.cfm?lat=38.116282999999996&lon=-121.626032&scale=20000&zoom=100&type=1&height=498&width=498&icon=0&searchscope=dom&scriptfile=http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepage/index.cfm&bpid=MAP0060030900&latlontype=DMS

This next link will show a LandSat photo of the marina in the same location, scale, and orientation as the Topo Map:
(You can clearly see the marina docks along the south bank of the slough)

http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepage/index.cfm?lat=38.116282999999996&lon=-121.626032&scale=24000&zoom=100&type=3&height=498&width=498&icon=0&searchscope=dom&scriptfile=http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepage/index.cfm&bpid=MAP0060030900&latlontype=DMS

Once you are in MapServer, just zoom out to see the relationship of Seven Mile Slough to the San Joaquin River, in either the Topo or the Sat-Photo.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA

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