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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by redeye</i> <br />...Figure they are rebranded Ti hot soos?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Yup. Same specs. 4-strokes. Same cases. Different decals. So lots of people here have used them--especially the 9.8. Evinrude's own outboards are the bigger e-Tec models--all 2-strokes based on Ski Doo engines.
Yes, if you like local stores for things, it helps to buy stuff from them. Honda went out on a limb and didn't sell to anyone who didn't commission and tank-test their outboards for each customer. It probably cost them some sales.
Burp. (Auctually BRP). But it is a funny way to remember the company division. Kind hard to imagine they care much about a 4hp given the budgets for some of their projects..
I thought the 2 strokes were banished? Epa said no way?
As long as the emissions are in line, they don't care.. These engines are nothing like the old 2 strokers. Sump lubrication, direct injection, rotary valves with asymmetrical intake and exhaust timing are a few of the differences in modern 2 strokes. Don't expect these expensive technologies in our small, relatively inexpensive outboards.
Their 2-strokes meet EPA specs by using computer-controlled oil injection and who knows what other high-tech gimmicks. I've been around them, and they are essentially smokeless and almost as quiet as most 4-strokes. Their fuel economy is close, they're substantially lighter, and their torque is unmatchable by equivalent HP 4-strokes. They were new when my boat was being built, so I opted for my 225 Honda, but I drove the same 27' hull with two 150 e-Tecs, and when I pushed the throttles up, it tried to throw me over the transom!
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Don't hesitate to discuss engines. Everything I thought I knew is obsolete, the engines are different with each new year...
I had a new single cylinder Mercury that I sold because I was uncomfortable with only one cylinder, and knowing little of new Mercs. It had a very easy pull, but seemed to be a weak spark.. hesitant to gitty up and start.
I'm always comparing engines, like the way my old MGB would crank at the slightest bump of the starter, and a Datsun z engine that had 2 plugs per cylinder. It would start at the slightest turn of the key.
Barely using the 1972 Johnson on my boat, but I'm sure it will die one day. The 84 sailmaster is also still running.
Anyhoo... always on the lookout for a small, longshaft, reliable, light engine. A 50 lb wonder that runs on peanut oil..
Who knows what will come out new year.... Iphone engine control.. ( Siri, head for the Marina )
Looks like Tohatsu's new "large" line (115-250 hp) is rebranded Hondas. (Identical specs and cases, different color and decals.) Each of these makers probably wants to be able to keep the other brands out of their franchise dealers, push exclusive franchises, and build brand recognition while they decide whether to venture into the other sizes (larger or smaller). Yamaha and Honda are about the only ones going alone.
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