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ssteakley
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Initially Posted - 02/17/2003 : 20:47:08

Team NZ is now 2.4 boat lengths behind....will they finish first?
I hope they beat them by 2 seconds and make this a real Cup!
Steve

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John G-
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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 20:59:20

There is nothing like a downwind duel. 1.9 boat lengths as I write this. This will be another great finish. Some of the best Am Cup racing I’ve seen and I have tapes going back to Ted Turner.
 

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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 21:13:01

Crew work! Crew work! Crew work!
Bare away set and an immediate jibe, it should have been easier than a jibe set but….
A loss of 1.5 boat lengths.
Now a downwind jibing duel will tell the tale.
 

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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 21:17:26

How can hundreds of spinnaker pole sets result in this??<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>
Team NZ better start praying to the Cup Gods
Steve

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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 21:23:51

Well Done Alinghi!, Man....this is like me trying to beat Derek!
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John G-
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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 21:29:54

Two things. The challenger may have the advantage of surviving the Lois Vuitton Cup. The defender has only raced against their sister boat and not under “do or die” conditions. Then they lost the start and missed a set. All that equals -21 seconds.
 

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 21:32:08

Well, we were joking about it a few weeks earlier, but perhaps we will be watching the next AC series on Lake Geneva... er... how big is Lake Geneva anyway?

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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 21:37:39

Steve - if Team NZ comes back to win the Cup I'll gladly sacrifice a race to you...
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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 21:39:58

"Well, we were joking about it a few weeks earlier, but perhaps we will be watching the next AC series on Lake Geneva... er... how big is Lake Geneva anyway?"

AC races can't be held on Lake Geneva.

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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 21:41:40

BTW Team Alingi is the “A” team. Russell Coutts would be at the helm of team NZ if he hadn’t left. My friends in Brittany are going wild. It looks like the next cup will be on the coast of France.
 

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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 02/17/2003 : 22:23:51

Canyon Lake would be better!
Steve Steakley

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 02/18/2003 : 00:03:30

My wife and I agree (on this anyway <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>...and I should be so lucky she enjoys these races, too) that all these big, expensive boats ought to race together, just like Catalina 25s do, for the cup. Could you imagine the excitement (read "crash and burn") at the start if all the boats that went home were still around actually racing in a nine race series for the cup?<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>
I agree that the challengers get the benefit of lots of practice and lots of chances to fix anything that goes wrong before meeting the defender....hardly seems fair.
Team NZ pulls off major upset by winning 5 in a row <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> to take the cup (and Saddam <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle> wins the war against Team USA...ha, ha <img src=icon_smile_clown.gif border=0 align=middle>)

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 02/18/2003 : 01:47:35

Do you want to hear something somewhat bizarre?

Every Christmas, my girls get me a new sailing calendar and this year they selected a calendar called "Ultimate Sailing 2003" which they bought in the fall. In it there are pictures of various sailboats from 75 footers and Aussie 18's to a 1903 gaff rigged cutter. Each month has two pictures, one distant and one close-up of the same boat.

And the boat that is featured for the month of February(AC Race month)....Alinghi!

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Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 02/18/2003 : 09:49:34

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> The boat that is featured for the month of February(AC Race month)....Alinghi!
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Great!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> Now we have another sport that is fixed!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Bryan Beamer
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Response Posted - 02/18/2003 : 11:17:47

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
My wife and I agree... that all these big, expensive boats ought to race together, just like Catalina 25s do, for the cup. Could you imagine the excitement (read "crash and burn") at the start if all the boats that went home were still around actually racing in a nine race series for the cup
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>
Sounds like fun, but I get to watch fleet races every weekend, and crew in them occasionally... Everyone just goes around the course as quickly as possible--if you concentrate on one boat, you get beaten by another. By comparison, match racing between two of the world's best teams is a treat to watch.

The one downside of Alinghi winning is that the races in Europe will be in the morning. I love these 7pm starts!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 02/18/2003 : 16:28:46

Which one's NZ? Aren't they both skippered by kiwis?

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Response Posted - 02/18/2003 : 20:13:04

And, a significant portion of the crew is from NZ. I think Jobson said 17 Kewi's were on the two boats!

It seems like NZ, with rules corruption and sporting greed, have found a way to have two boats in the finals of the AC.

Don Peet
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