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Initially Posted - 06/22/2014 : 11:15:15

I would like to say hello to all, I have just purchased a 1978 Standard Rig #797. She was abandoned at a marina in Lake Pontchartrain LA. She hasn't been touched for at least 2 years. She was floating however... I have a strong mechanical and electrical background. Generally I like to think of myself as being fairly handy. I have access to a master of fiberglass so I think that just about covers anything I need to do to the boat. I have a reasonable amount of experience sailing, though it was 20 years ago. I have only been able to spend a couple of hours with her since purchase. I have about a 90 mile trip (all motoring) to get her home. Then she'll go up and dry for a good going through. I just wanted to introduce myself and say thanks as this forum was one of the deciding factors in buying a Catalina.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 06/22/2014 : 12:20:10

Good to see you online.

Don't hesitate to ask ?'s, even old ones.

Paul

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 06/22/2014 : 12:34:59

Welcome! This community was a factor in my choice years ago also, and I've followed it long after changing horses.

For purposes of getting better answers to many questions, it's useful to add the year, rig, and keel (e.g., 1978 SR/SK or 1978 SR/FK) to your "signature" so it automatically shows with each question. Hull# doesn't hurt. Answers are likely to vary based on one of those primary specs.

I'm guessing, since you've been following the forum, that you are award of [url="catalinadirect.com"]Catalina Direct[/url], the third-party supplier of many parts and upgrades for these boats. They know the boats well, and are reasonably priced (although don't try to beat the big on-line warehouses that can't help us.) They also have some "exclusive" upgrades worth considering. Their $10 "Handbook" is worth the price, even though it's essentially their catalog.

Where will you be sailing her?

Fair winds!

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 06/22/2014 12:37:22

dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/22/2014 : 15:04:11

Welcome to the C-25/250 community. Looking forward to updates, and pictures, on your restoration project.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 06/22/2014 : 18:42:53

Welcome aboard! Good to have another C25 resurrected. You might look through Frank's, Pastmember, albums to see how much good photo documentation can help others.

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 06/23/2014 : 03:14:40

Welcome-this is a great place exchange information that really helps. You probably already know that. Sounds like you may have some knowledge helpful to other members. Good luck with your boat.

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Response Posted - 06/24/2014 : 12:01:27

Thanks for the warm welcome. Thursday I will move the boat from Lake Pontchartrain to her new home. "About 90 miles". The catch is I have to cross the Mississippi River. Don't know much about traveling there. I have to go through two locks, lock into and then out of the river. Then it will be a lazy ride down the Intracoastal. I will be motoring so I will lay the mast down so hopefully I won't have to wait for too many bridge openings. I will get some better pics of the boat to share on the trip.

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Response Posted - 06/24/2014 : 13:28:35

Welcome Clint! You've certainly found a valuable resource here.

Between your background, fiberglass resource and decades of experience residing here - your efforts could very well result in a first rate restoration.

We luv project pix!

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/25/2014 : 07:38:40

With the mast down, you should not have any problem with bridges. Be sure to support the mast aft with some kind of bridge that will still give you full use of the tiller. It's easy to make one. See the C-25 mast raising video on YouTube by DavyJ. I made a mast support like his and it worked great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r33VCObNroY

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Response Posted - 06/25/2014 : 08:59:33

Thanks David. Actually I have been studying that video as I will make a rig like his for lowering. Unfortunately I have to postpone moving the boat home, but it will give me time to get her in better order when we are ready. A man approached me with a business card stating that he dives and cleans bottoms. He quoted me 4 bucks a foot. Does anyone know the going rate for such? Keep in mind she has been setting unattended in the slip for 2 years so this will be a fair amount of labor on his part. For a hundred bucks I think it's a good deal but should I be wary of who I let do something like this?

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Response Posted - 06/25/2014 : 09:51:52

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. . . A man approached me with a business card stating that he dives and cleans bottoms . . . but should I be wary of who I let do something like this?

I'd be more concerned about the guy's insurance if he should be injured on the job. You are not pulling the boat and inspecting the bottom for a potential redo?

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Response Posted - 06/25/2014 : 10:00:33

I will once I get the boat home. My father-in-law is a boat builder (Fiberglass and wood). I have access to everything I need to get the boat on the hard, clean, repair, and paint the hull there. When I get home I'm gonna do some research on the company listed on the business card.

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Response Posted - 06/25/2014 : 10:51:18

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. . . My father-in-law is a boat builder (Fiberglass and wood). I have access to everything I need to get the boat on the hard, clean, repair, and paint the hull . . .

Sweet! I'm thinkn' we're going to see some great outcomes with this boat!

Interesting geography in your neck of the woods (compared to many of us inland sailors). I don't see that you've mentioned your future home port.

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Response Posted - 06/25/2014 : 12:47:07

Well, I think eventually, when she has recovered from the years of neglect I'd like to put her back on Lake Pontchartrain. (Present location) For all of the repairs she will be in DUN DUN DUHHHNNN Dulac Louisiana...Bayou LaBatre ain't got nuttin' on our shrimp boats... From Dulac if I had to guess I could be in good water in about 3 hours. There is a lake in Morgan City which has a few sailboats in it. Slips there are extremely hard to get. People move in and never leave. Driving distance to get to the boat in Morgan City would be about an hour. I can be on Lake Pontchartrain in about an hour and a half. The only bad thing about mooring her on Pontchartrain is to go anywhere other than the lake to the West, I have to go through the locks and the Mississippi. On the other hand, all the action is East aside from Galveston, which would be a super long trip anyway. I don't know what you guys pay for a slip where you are but in Pontchartrain, it's very cheap or at least I think it is. About 1300 a year. Here's a good question, does anyone insure their boat through their homeowners policy? Is this a bad idea?

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Response Posted - 06/25/2014 : 13:42:02

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Here's a good question, does anyone insure their boat through their homeowners policy? Is this a bad idea?

We insure ours through our homeowner's package, but, we are on an inland lake with minimal risks. If we were on larger waters I think we'd explore insurance from a marine insurer, with towing insurance.

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Response Posted - 06/25/2014 : 13:59:34

That's actually what I'm looking at right now. The homeowners policy won't recover or salvage the boat say in the event of a hurricane. The marina requires this. I'm looking at Boat US. They seem to offer everything we need for a very respectable price albeit higher that going through my homeowners. I think I'll stick with Boat US... Thanks

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Response Posted - 06/25/2014 : 19:11:30

You can't go wrong with BoatUS... I have a yacht policy bundled with my homeowner's--pretty comprehensive, and it is included under an umbrella excess liability policy (with my car).

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 06/26/2014 : 09:15:09

Regarding the hull cleaning, you should definitely have the bottom cleaned before you motor home. Top speed on a C25 motoring is about 6 knots but you will use much less gas staying around 5 knots. With a few years growth on the hull you will be lucky to hit 5 knots under full throttle. A handheld GPS works great for estimating your speed. $100 sounds pretty good to clean a boat that has set untouched for years in the water. I pay $30 a month to have mine cleaned but since it is done monthly it is only about a half hour job. I have BoatUS insurance and also have their towing service. Never used it in ten years but it is nice to have if the need arises. Defintiely hook up with it before you set out on your voyage.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 06/26/2014 : 21:40:59

I have BoatUS insurance, towing, trailer assist. I definitely recommend them, but you need to see if TowBoat US is on you body of water.

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 06/27/2014 : 20:47:29

Clint -- Welcome to the family! As someone who restored a virtually abandoned C25 I can say that the base stock is very solid and the information available from the builder, suppliers such as Catalina Direct, Ullman/Ventura Sails -- and most of all this forum will make the projects that you will be embarking on much easier and very enjoyable. Scroll through the past posts and most questions will have been addressed, For any that have not been, we opine with conviction!

Enjoy your new project!

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Response Posted - 06/30/2014 : 13:28:35

So I finally got to get out to the boat this week. I won't be able to move her yet but I got lots of pictures I will start adding to my album. I took the sails home to check them out. I knew that main was in disrepair so we are working on getting that patched up until I can replace it. However I took the headsail out and boy oh boy. Looks like a never been flown US Sails 150%. Pretty excited about that. Just that is worth more than I paid for the boat. When I bought her she had about a foot of water in her, she'd been unattended for about two years. Pumped that out and this time when I went back there was no water. I was pretty sure it was rain water anyway as the hatch wasn't properly closed. Anyway just wanted to give an update. Hopefully I'll be able to spend a few days out there in the next week or two. Feel free to look at the pics. I will be posting more soon.

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Response Posted - 07/01/2014 : 05:00:14

Do a search on this forum for "mast crutch" and you will find several threads, including some where people have made their own. I made one out of 1x4's that sit in the drain trough at the rear of the cockpit and secures to the stern pulpit. It allows the tiller to remain in place for steering. I later built the one like DavyJ's out of aluminum conduit with stainless elbows. I liked the conduit one better because you can leave it in place full time if you want to.

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