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glw
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Initially Posted - 08/13/2014 :  10:21:30  Show Profile
What line diameter, braid, length, and material is ideal?
Last year I bought new line for my Furler (CDI FF4) but what I got is too skinny and is very uncomfortable to pull on.
I have a 150 Genoa. The furler says it is made for 1/4" but can I use 5/16" or 8mm line? How important is low stretch? I'd rather not spend $$$ on features that I won't notice a difference when I use, or that increase how long it lasts.
Anyone have a website they recommend for ordering line?
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OJ
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Response Posted - 08/13/2014 :  10:36:25  Show Profile
We use 5/16" braided line on our furler, probably Dacron.

This guy is extremely knowledgeable, helpful. He will fulfill the needs you describe above and nothing more. His first name is Trevor.

http://www.harneyyachtrigging.com/
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pastmember
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Response Posted - 08/13/2014 :  10:40:25  Show Profile
<font size="6"><font color="red">ALWAYS WEAR GLOVES</font id="red"></font id="size6">
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pastmember
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Response Posted - 08/13/2014 :  11:16:13  Show Profile
In my experience the perfect line is a myth. As with most lines on a boat you need to consider its purpose before you consider your comfort. For me the furling line issue that drives my decision is ... furler drum over ride. Furler drum over ride happens when the furler line is simply let go when unfurling the sail; haul on the leeward sheet and let her rip. So the furler line must be a line whose tension you can control as it is let out... do you have a hardware solution or will you simply man the line?

Anyway I always end up with a 1/4" line that wraps cleanly because of its flexibility over every other consideration. I know the drum will hold all the 1/4" line I ask it to hold and most cleats can handle 1/4" line. Stretch is not a consideration due to the short distances involved and most low stretch line does not like wrapping on such a small radius anyway.
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jerlim
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Response Posted - 08/13/2014 :  11:31:58  Show Profile
Make certain that the drum can handle the additional space that a larger diameter line will occupy. We've got 5/16 line and it fills the drum. On rare occasions, if it does not lay poroperly when wrapping on, the drum jams, and the line needs to be pulled out and respooled.
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islander
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Response Posted - 08/13/2014 :  12:16:16  Show Profile
A 150 is a lot of sail to roll up. If you go to a larger 5/16 line you are going to get less line/raps on the spool and run the risk of running out of line when furling the sail in a strong wind leaving part of the sail unfurled. I had 5/16 but replaced it with 1/4 Stay-set. It raps better and I can get more line on the spool. Gloves are MANDATORY.
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OJ
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Response Posted - 08/13/2014 :  14:11:26  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by islander

A 150 is a lot of sail to roll up. If you go to a larger 5/16 line you are going to get less line/raps on the spool and run the risk of running out of line when furling the sail in a strong wind leaving part of the sail unfurled. I had 5/16 but replaced it with 1/4 Stay-set. It raps better and I can get more line on the spool. Gloves are MANDATORY.


Excellent observation about furling a 150 Scott. 1/4" line, yeah! definitely gloves!
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 08/13/2014 :  18:39:04  Show Profile
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<font size="6"><font color="red">ALWAYS WEAR GLOVES</font id="red"></font id="size6">
...because it's important to keep some tension on the line as you pull out the sail, so it wraps snugly on the drum. A glove lets the line slip through your hand without removing some skin.
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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 08/14/2014 :  03:17:44  Show Profile
Remove the core from the fist 15-20feet of the furling line. My dock neighbor has this setup, which allows a larger line for comfort and takes little space on the furling drum. When the headsail is reefed deeply, the de-cored line is preventing rotation, but there is little headsail pressure then anyway...Great solution that I will use when I need to replace the furling line.

As for tension, our line goes through a block on the rear pulpit. A half wrap over a cleat or winch creates enough automatic tension to keep a tidy wrap on the furling drum. When reefing, I will let the sail out much slower so no rope burns...
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 08/15/2014 :  14:19:20  Show Profile
My Hood furler came with decored line for the first 20', it works very well. It has 8mm (5/16") line, I believe it is NE Ropes Sta-Set.
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