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Voyager
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Initially Posted - 02/28/2015 :  11:15:50  Show Profile
I'm putting together a boating safety presentation at the local library - 1 hour of what NOT to do on a boat. I'd like to cover:
1. Boat launching and dock safety
2. Waterskiing safety
3. Stand up Paddleboard safety
4. Kayaking
5. PFDs
6. VHF
7. Rules of the road

So rather than going through a lot of boring text and state boating dept canned photos, I'd like to use some amusing pictures to show folks the things they should watch out for, for hazards and what they should not do.
One that comes to mind is a guy with one foot on the dock and another on the boat. Or a crazy paddler about to get swallowed by a huge breaking wave. Or maybe a stand up paddleboarder looking down to see a huge shark outlined under the board.

I could not think of a better group to ask than this one for some choice shorts or short YouTube clips. Any suggestions?
Bruce Ross
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Response Posted - 02/28/2015 :  12:17:05  Show Profile
http://www.break.com/video/boat-launch-trailer-fail-2656428

http://www.boatingmag.com/how-to/boating-fail-launch-ramp-ridiculousness

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islander
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Response Posted - 02/28/2015 :  12:36:12  Show Profile
OK Bruce this thread will get big fast.
I guess you could start the presentation with all the virtues that boating has to offer like all the benefits that mother nature will show you....


Then of course the proper ways to launch a boat...


the importance of obeying navigation aids...


And all the new friends you will make while boating...
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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Davy J
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Response Posted - 02/28/2015 :  13:30:51  Show Profile
Not sure if these are epic......
But these are photos I actually took.....

I originally thought these guys may have miss-judged the tide:




But, then I found these guys on the other side of the island....




Guess is that a cargo or cruise ship came past and the resulting wake caused all the boats to get beached....
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/01/2015 :  09:23:27  Show Profile
Wow, this is a great start! I like the backwoodsmen on the inflatable paddling upstream and the launch vehicle! C-a-runch on the channel marker is funny. The boats up on the beach is cool, this really happened near me when a vacationer at a summer cottage brought his 35 foot sloop up close to the beachhouse at high tide only to find the tide went out later leaving his boat leaning precariously over on its fin keel and rudder!
I thought I saw a photo last year of a kayaker in Cape Cod or near the SF penninsula coast with a great white underwater.
Bruce Ross
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/01/2015 :  10:27:03  Show Profile
Oh something like this...
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Response Posted - 03/01/2015 :  11:09:55  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Voyager

...I like the backwoodsmen on the inflatable paddling upstream...

Funny, I didn't even catch on the guys were paddling upstream until you mentioned it. Dooh!

Actually, if you look closely it looks like someone is towing them upstream, the bow line appears to be tight. And is the guy in the back "signing" to the birds?

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GaryB
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redeye
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Response Posted - 03/02/2015 :  06:09:12  Show Profile
Don't park your boat under a Huge Old Oak Tree....
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/02/2015 :  16:56:25  Show Profile
Hope the guy wasn't out fishing at the time!!

So, I really am puzzled about stand up paddleboarding. Like it doesn't seem relaxing in the least. You're standing up, and you're always prone to tipping over. You do have a big paddle to swing around when the gnats get fierce. But it's not really my place to criticize. They are pretty popular and I see half a dozen SUPs from time to time in the harbor.

My concern is that they typically don't wear lifejackets or have them on hand, nor do I see them with a whistle or a flashlight, even around dusk. Because the boards are so bare, I usually just see the boarder and the board, and maybe a bottled water. Am I the only person who's concerned about this? Our State Boating Unit recently passed a reg classifying SUPs just like kayaks and canoes: life jackets needed from Oct 1- May 31, flash light at night and a sound-producing device on board at all times: whistle or air horn is OK.
Bruce Ross
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redeye
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Response Posted - 03/03/2015 :  06:34:48  Show Profile
<< Like it doesn't seem relaxing in the least. >>

I imagine like windsurfing you get your balance on the board and it becomes like walking on water. I've seen a few out at night without lights and think they should have a strobe on the board, or built in.

Life jackets really.. kinda like they usta say we had to have life jackets with scuba gear... Flotation is in the board.
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/03/2015 :  07:06:53  Show Profile
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My concern is that they typically don't wear lifejackets or have them on hand, nor do I see them with a whistle or a flashlight,

We have a kayak,Paddleboard rental shop in my Marina and the girl that runs it always give the renters life jackets. Most stand up paddle boarders around me have them laying on the front of the board and some do wear them. But if you think about it Surfers don't wear life jackets nor are they required too. Also I just haven't heard about an epidemic of drownings from that activity so why make up laws about something that doesn't exist. As kayaks and paddleboards get to be more popular you might have more accidents then possibly you need a law.
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life jackets needed from Oct 1- May 31,

So, They are not needed in the summer?
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/03/2015 :  12:54:04  Show Profile
Right Scott,
The boating unit in CT doesn't require life jackets from June to the end of September. The main risk for kayakers is hypothermia, not drowning. The example is a hot 80+ degree day in May, while the water temps are still ~50°. Survival without a life jacket due to cold shock could be 5 minutes, with one probably 2-3 hours. Still not great odds but better.
By the end of June, temps are well into the 60°s, so neither is a huge problem.
I see most SUPs around once the summer gets rolling.
And you're right, their numbers are still low, no need to clamp down with the regs.
Not so with kayaks - we get 3-5 deaths a year in LISound. A few in April & May and a few in late October. Almost all fatalities are found not wearing life jackets.
Bruce Ross
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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 03/04/2015 :  02:44:06  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
I love this joke
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/04/2015 :  10:40:51  Show Profile
Oops, Always keep an eye out for shoaling when in unfamiliar waters...
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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redeye
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Response Posted - 03/04/2015 :  13:48:51  Show Profile
Always make sure the jackstand you added is not gonna Slip before removing another one.. preferable by chaining it to one from the other side..

He added a jackstand on the far side and as he removed another one the one he added slid away...
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Response Posted - 03/04/2015 :  16:22:44  Show Profile
Crane Launch
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Response Posted - 03/04/2015 :  18:05:11  Show Profile
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Crane Launch



Notice the guy on the swim platform starting slide toward the salon (circled in red).

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 03/04/2015 :  18:53:48  Show Profile
Oh my! Did the guy survive? Hard to imagine that he did, especially if the boat hit bottom.
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Response Posted - 03/04/2015 :  19:45:32  Show Profile
Yes, from what I understand they did. If this is the one I think it there was another person on the boat also.

Edit: http://www.yachtforums.com/index.php?threads/splash.7055/

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Andiamo
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Response Posted - 03/13/2015 :  17:38:59  Show Profile
Bruce:

I don't know how your presentation may go, but daw gone I feel like an expert compared to some of these pics!
Peter Bigelow
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 03/14/2015 :  12:24:58  Show Profile
I want to thank everyone for their great insights and cool photos. I spoke with the local Librarian and she's very cool with the premise - keep everyone's interest with the laughs and make your serious point about safety.

The Library is located just in front of the boat launch on the harbor, and I see all the boaters, dinghy sailors, launch tenders, kayakers, paddleboarders and inner tube floaters (with cupholders) who frequent the harbor, and talk to the Harbor Patrol and Fire Fighters (on the water) about some of the crazy, "stupid human tricks" people get into.

My goal will be to encourage safe launching, observing ATONs and the right of way, making sure paddlecraft stay out of navigation channels, use of lifejackets and lights at times of poor visibility and judicious use of sound producing devices.

Peter - I'll let you know when we will present it in June - you can come by and demo the gear if you like.
Bruce Ross
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islander
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Response Posted - 04/09/2015 :  14:22:50  Show Profile
No really officer, All this open water, and out of nowhere this thing jumped in front of us and dismasted our boat!
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
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Response Posted - 04/09/2015 :  14:29:17  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by islander

All that open water, and out of nowhere this thing jumped in front of us and dismasted our boat!


Based on the way the boats in the background are heeling, I'd say he just cut it a little too close on the windward side of the daymarker.
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Response Posted - 04/14/2015 :  08:16:50  Show Profile
How to tell when a boat has been sitting around for a while...This is 4sale on a local CL. Shovel included with the boat.
Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound


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Response Posted - 04/14/2015 :  11:17:27  Show Profile  Visit britinusa's Homepage
It had never occurred to me to lower the trailer in order to get the boat off!

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Response Posted - 04/14/2015 :  19:24:40  Show Profile
Amazing how shiny the hull is after sitting to long. Maybe the grass was so tall before he mowed it to take the picture that the hull was protected from the damaging effects of UV! :)

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