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Manitou
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Initially Posted - 03/15/2003 : 19:11:32

Does anyone else have a problem with the size of the holes used to drain water from the cabin deck into the bilge? Mine are still factory spec, but they are very small and do a poor job of draining water. The water will pool at the step between the salon and the head and in the corner by the galley. I have used small wire and ensured they are open, but they still do not darin well. Is there any problem anyone knows that could come from drilling them just a bit lager so they will drain better? Thanks.

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Response Posted - 03/15/2003 : 19:41:00

My '85 has no drain holes through the sole of the cabin. Perhaps a better question is, "Where the h*** is this water coming from?"

Eric Werkowitz
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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 03/16/2003 : 07:42:10

I agree with Eric. Snickerdoodle ('85 TR/FK) has no drain holes in either the galley or head for water to drain into the bilge. This sounds like a previous owner modification to me.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 03/16/2003 : 10:00:36

Manitou,<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>... the holes used to drain water from ... the step between the salon and the head and in the corner by the galley. <hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>I know the holes you mean -- I drilled them in my boat too, plus one at the low point in the isle near the dinette, and at the sag at the base of the stairs. As for diameter, I'd say anywhere from 1/4" to 1/2" would be fine.

As for the need, I also agree with Eric and Bill. The best solution is to stop the water from getting in to begin with. When I first got my 1979 C-25, there were so many rain leaks that the cabin sole drain holes were a necessary temporary step until I could find and fix all the deck leaks. After rebedding everything bolted though the deck at least once, and sealing off the anchor locker from the V-berth, I seem to have reduced the leaks to almost nothing. A dry interior is a goal worth pursuing.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

-- Leon Sisson

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Response Posted - 03/16/2003 : 21:08:04

Thanks to everyone for their posts. I agree I have a few leaks to fix. I have already reseated two windows and still have a pretty substantial leak through the port base for the upper shroud. The chain plate has been leaking and it has rotted out about 10" in the lower outboard corner of the interior bulkhead wood. I know I can eventually stop those leaks but the holes will help in the mean time. The holes are also nice for cleaning the cabin deck and letting the rinse water drain into the bilge instead of mopping it up. It sounds like I can safely drill the holes a little bigger. Right now they are about 1/16" and that is just too small. Thanks again.

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Response Posted - 03/17/2003 : 00:38:37

I suggest you inspect carefully around the bulkhead where the chainplate bolts to it. Any rot from extended leaking of the chain plate could compromise the integrity of the shroud attachment. If it should fail you could find yourself in a world of s**t as my DI used to say.

Eric Werkowitz
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Response Posted - 03/17/2003 : 15:54:48

Have to agree with Eric. Holes in the cabin sole are the least of your worries. If you have 10" of rot in the bulkhead, you may be looking at replacing it. Another concern, if the bulkhead is rotted, what's the condition of the deck core around the chainplate. If that's rotted, then the strength of the deck in that area is compromised.

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Response Posted - 03/20/2003 : 14:40:06

Thanks to all who have responded. I understand the concern for structural integrity, especially since I cruise Chesapeake Bay and routinely sail in 15+ knots of wind. I am on my way out to the boat to check the status of leaks since it has been raining all day. I believe the water is coming down the 5 or 6 bolt plate from the main shroud connected to the top of the interior bulkhead. The rot is in the lower outboard corner on the port side. Most of this started with a leak in the forward salon window. That leak has been fixed. It seems that the water now comes down the chainplate, down the wall and pools in the corner of the dinnette seat. The wood around the chainplate is not rotted at all and the integrity seems solid. I plan to remove, clean and reseal the above deck plate for the upper shroud. The previous owner seems to have chased some of these leaks but did a poor job of cleaning the surfaces. The sealant is just globbed on over the previous layer and I think that is the problem. When I take the cover off and pull the fitting I hope to be able to tell if their is rot in the deck core. If there is I am thinking it is time to move on to a new boat. I only paid $4K for the boat two years ago as a 'learning boat' and it may have served its purpose. For anyone following along I will let you know what I find and may seek more advise. Thanks again to all. This is a great forum for new sailors.

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Response Posted - 03/20/2003 : 19:37:44

Just back from the Monsoon and with God providing exceptional amounts of wind and rain I was able to learn MUCH more than I really wanted to about the problem. Surfice it to say that this discussion is moving from this thread to a new post entitled "replacing an interior bulkhead." The water is in fact comming down through the main chain plate and after removing it I found the wood rotted around each bolt. It is not a pretty sight. Anyone who cares to comment or suggest, please come see me under the new thread.

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