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H20boy
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Initially Posted - 03/26/2003 : 13:42:09

I have noticed in several photos that some have their motors mounted on the starboard side vs. the port side. I have a starboard mount....what gives?

Rick Price
"79" 25' SK/Standard
Hull # 1237
Tacoma, Wa

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 03/26/2003 : 14:11:13

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I have noticed in several photos that some have their motors mounted on the starboard side vs. the port side. I have a starboard mount....what gives?

Rick Price
"79" 25' SK/Standard
Hull # 1237
Tacoma, Wa
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Somewhere around 1980 something catalina switched the motor from the Port side to the starboard side. I believe it was a weight distribution issue. Bill Holcomb would be the best person to give the exact reason. (might have been earlier since yours was a 79?

dw

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Loren H.
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Response Posted - 03/26/2003 : 15:32:10

My mount is port as well and the boat has no list to mention at all. My question, on the post 80's boats, did they move the gas tank storage hatch to starboard as well or do these boats have to run the gas line along the stern rail from the port side?

I've seen several posts saying the starboard side is the correct side but no mention of gas tank storage. As far as I can tell, the mount has always been on the port side so this seems to be factory determined, confirming Duane's comments.

"Epiphany" '78 SK SR #352

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 03/26/2003 : 15:37:34

osmepneo (a 1980 model) has her motor mount on port and the gas storage tank is alson port. There is no noticable list with this configuration, even with empty water tanks (which are on the starboard side.)

Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 03/27/2003 : 11:28:26

Hi Rick,

Here's the real story about why the motor mount was moved from the port side of the boat to the starboard side in the early '80s. The original design for the fuel locker placed the fuel tank in the big portside locker on a tray built into the locker. This was OK unless there was a fuel leak of any sort. The leak would disburse gasoline fumes throughout the boat - much to the displeasure of both skippers and crews.

In the early '80s Catalina redesigned the portside locker and molded in a seperate fuel tank locker on the portside of the cockpit and aft right at the transom. This fuel tank locker is completely seperated from the inside of the large portside locker and is part of the portside cockpit seat. This solved the fumes problem nicely.

However, since the outboard bracket was an option that dealers could order installed by the factory or sell as an aftermarket item at the dealership, Catalina did not install the bracket until the boat was pretty much completed in the production process. With the earlier design, it was easy to drill through the transom on the portside and secure the washers and nuts on the inside of the cockpit locker. But, with the new fuel tank locker obscuring access to the transom on the portside, Catalina began installing the OB bracket on the starboard side of the transom. The install crew would have one person crawl back in the quarterberth to secure the nuts and washers while another person held the bracket and bolts outside.

So, the change was for convenience during manufacturing......pure and simple.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/27/2003 : 22:49:27

That confirms my suspicion, Bill--having crawled under the molded fuel locker to get to the inside of the transom, I wouldn't want that for a job!

Also, with the bracket mounted about 2' off center, the 100# (+ or -) outboard doesn't have that much leverage to port or starboard on a boat with 1500-1900# of ballast and 8' of beam amidships. My recollection from many months ago when Passage was in the water was that I could step from one cockpit seat to the other causing very little list either way, and I weigh a little more than 100#. <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

Conclusion: Put the outboard where you want it, and don't expect to change much by switching it.

Loren: Most owners I've seen run the gas line across the sole against the transom and through the starboard drain to the motor. I run it over the transom cutout (under the tiller) to keep it from hanging against the bracket. Not perfect, but it's an outboard any way you look at it.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 03/27/2003 : 23:20:28

"Conclusion: Put the outboard where you want it, and don't expect to change much by switching it."

I always thought the port vs starboard mount list thing was a bunch of hooey, and Bill confirmed it.

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