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Restoring hull color on 1987 C25?

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LuckyDuck
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Initially Posted - 03/12/2018 : 14:57:06

The hull color and stripes on our recently purchased 1987 C25 are a bit faded � is there a recommended product to revive these? Or anythIng to avoid? The original hull appears to be a light beige but the bottom has obviously been both blue and red (and maybe something else.) Anyone know what the original Catalina color below the waterline was? Thanks!

�Lucky Duck� - �87 C25 Trad. SR/WK #5588
Whiskeytown Lake, CA

Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 : 07:17:58

The hull below the waterline is white from the factory. The red and blue that you're seeing is probably old antifouling paint.

Maine Sail is a sailnetter who is widely respected for his advice on many subjects, especially on how to restore a faded gel coat finish. Here's a link to his advice. http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-maintenance/52772-tips-compound-polish-wax.html

Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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islander
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 : 07:33:05

There was a discussion on hull color awhile back. Turned out there was a variety of hull colors to choose from. The majority are white on an 87. Earlier years were an off white, Tannish color. Got any photos?

Scott-"IMPULSE"87'C25/SR/WK/Din.#5688
Sailing out of Glen Cove,L.I Sound

Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 : 08:18:17

This is an example of the results you can get by following Main Sail's recommendations. Port side is before. Starbd side is after compounding.

This is after polishing but before waxing.

Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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LuckyDuck
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 : 11:20:19

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There was a discussion on hull color awhile back. Turned out there was a variety of hull colors to choose from. The majority are white on an 87. Earlier years were an off white, Tannish color. Got any photos?

Thanks. I will dig back. I can�t paste a photo here, apparently, and don�t have any on a third-party site. Is there an easy way to post a photo here? When we bought the boat, it appeared to be an oxidized white, but we washed the hull and it definitely looks like a light tan. Brick red (faded) stripe at top and at water line. Below wl obviously was anti fouling paint that needs redoing.

�Lucky Duck� - �87 C25 Trad. SR/WK #5588
Whiskeytown Lake, CA

Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 : 11:42:29

There were two shades of tan available. One was called "sand" and I forget what the other was called, but that was the color of my boat. It was lighter than "sand" and I ordered it with the thought that white was hard on the eyes in bright sunlight, and that color would reduce the glare. That might be the color that you have.

Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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LuckyDuck
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 : 12:41:34

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There was a discussion on hull color awhile back. Turned out there was a variety of hull colors to choose from. The majority are white on an 87. Earlier years were an off white, Tannish color. Got any photos?

Here is a link to my profile on another forum. The thumbnail should give you an idea � it is a light tan (beige) but looks different in different light! ...
https://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php?members/luckyduck.140474/

�Lucky Duck� - �87 C25 Trad. SR/WK #5588
Whiskeytown Lake, CA

Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 03/13/2018 : 13:18:05

That might be the same color as mine. Here's an old picture of mine. It looks white-ish, but if you compare it to the white sails, you can see a shade of difference.

If you'll call the Catalina factory and give them your hull number, they keep the original orders, and can tell you what colors were ordered originally.

Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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Edited by - Steve Milby on 03/13/2018 13:21:41

dasreboot
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Response Posted - 03/14/2018 : 06:17:50

here is another issue. I have some (1ft square) areas on the hull that are beigeish. I think someone sanded or compounded through the gelcoat. Whats the most efficient way to fix? regelcoat? paint?

Todd Lewis
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 03/14/2018 : 09:13:33

You can use the picture on sailboatowners.com by copying its address (right-click the photo),
clicking the

button on the toolbar here, and pasting the address between the ] and the [. Here it is:

Dave Bristle
Association "Port Captain" for Mystic/Stonington CT
PO of 1985 C-25 SR/FK #5032 Passage, USCG "sixpack" (expired),
Now on Eastern 27 $+!nkp*+ Sarge

LuckyDuck
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Response Posted - 03/14/2018 : 09:53:10

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You can use the picture on sailboatowners.com by copying its address (right-click the photo),
clicking the button on the toolbar here, and pasting the address between the ] and the [. Here it is:

Thanks! An update: I provided the hull ID number to Catalina, which said they consolidated their records in the Florida plant and ones from California (like mine) generally are not there. He did confirm our boat was made with �regular white� gel coat color, however the hull is definitely a more beige shade than the top deck. A good cleaning/polishing should tell more.

�Lucky Duck� - �87 C25 Trad. SR/WK #5588
Whiskeytown Lake, CA

GaryB
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Response Posted - 03/14/2018 : 17:52:12

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Originally posted by Steve Milby

This is an example of the results you can get by following Main Sail's recommendations. Port side is before. Starbd side is after compounding.

This is after polishing but before waxing.

I'm really praying mine comes out looking like this tomorrow when I pick it up from the yard after getting a bottom job and compound and wax.

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jduck00
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Response Posted - 03/30/2018 : 14:00:37

This is what my 1980 model looks like without bottom paint. This is after I stripped the bottom, before I put the barrier coat on.

I found that finish sanding, buffing, and then waxing was the best way to get a good shine.

Jeremy Duck
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Response Posted - 03/30/2018 : 22:20:20

Sanding buffing waxing and all that work sure makes your boat shine up nice. I save the sweat and time by using Polyglow. It�s an acrylic finish that shines without buffing. You can touch it up for a few years but if it gets a little too thick or yellows, you can completely strip it using PolyPrep. I�m doing Passage in a few weeks� time.

Bruce Ross
Passage ~ SR-FK ~ C25 #5032

Port Captain � Milford, CT

Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/01/2018 : 08:38:36

I agree 100% with Bruce. PoliGlow comes in a kit with PolyPrep as the initial de-oxidising/cleaner followed by 5 coats of the PoliGlow. Sounds labor intensive but the PoliGlow just wipes on and dries quickly. I did TSU in less than 3 hours total - no buffing, no polishing and no hard work.

Derek Crawford
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Previous owner of "This Side UP"
1981 C-25 TR/FK #2262 Used to have an '89 C22 #9483, "Downsized"
San Antonio, Texas

Erik Cornelison
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Response Posted - 04/01/2018 : 09:38:30

Here's the Boat Works Today video on buffing and polishing gel coat.

https://youtu.be/8jrrPSjWTnc

Great thread...I'm so happy this forum is here with all the help.

Erik

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 04/02/2018 : 03:40:19

My boat only comes out of the water for an annual 1/2 hour bottom pressure wash and then one week every 3-4 years to repaint the bottom. As a result, I do most top works finishing while the boat is in the finger slip and that can be hard to do shimmying along the finger slip trying working wonders on the side of the hull. For this reason, I find using PolyGlow a good compromise - Not quite the shine that you can get using buffing the sides, however, Polyglow is very easy and quick to apply. It last a year and then I wash the boat and remove stains, very little if any oxidation. I then just re-apply the Polyglow - wipe on and wipe excess off. After several years of doing this, I then will use one of their other products to removed some of the old layers which tend to build up with time and have a slight tone to them. That takes a bit more time but nothing like using rubbing compound - The Polyglow products make it a much easier task.

Larry
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ryank020
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Response Posted - 04/02/2018 : 06:16:25

I had used PoliGlow on my 22, which the gel coat had been neglected since day 1 (it was a 1985). Through the two and a half years I had the boat, I never touched up and it always looked great. I had numerous complements on how great it looked as well. Probably took me 2 hours to prep and apply to a 22. However, I never got to the point where I had to remove it, so I cannot speak to that. I am in the same situation with my 25 and will use PoliGlow again this spring.

I wouldn't recommend using on the top-sides because it can be very slippery when wet and seemed to get very dirty from areas where you would lean against it (i.e. the bulkhead was disgusting).

1984 Cat 25 FK/TR #4687

sethp001
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Response Posted - 04/09/2018 : 15:29:07

I agree with everyone who has recommended Poli Glow. It is easy to apply and works great. Here's a video of my boat glistening in the water after applying Poli Glow:

https://whichsailboat.com/2016/10/18/poli-glow-works/

Seth
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