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Bruce Baker
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Initially Posted - 04/07/2003 : 07:47:06

I converted my mast to internal halyards with deck organizers and rope clutches. Is there a scientific way to locate the optimal placement for this new hardware? With a pop-top, it looks like there isn't a lot of wiggle room.

Also, I've got one winch left over from the old mast. I thought I'd use it to tension the hank-on jib. I reckon that's more important than tensioning the main. Thoughts?

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Bruce Baker
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John G-
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Response Posted - 04/07/2003 : 10:44:49

Bruce, you’re right there is not a lot of wiggle room but there is room for triple clutches on both sides. Check out this Tech Tip on [url="http://c25c250.best.vwh.net/restricted/tt008.htm "]lines led aft[/url]. Not in the photos is the port side where I have a lewmar #7 on the cabintop after the clutches, I use it for the main and reefing since I have roller furling.

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 04/07/2003 : 14:25:33

Bruce,

I have a 1979 Catalina 25 with pop-top. I have all control lines lead aft.
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Is there a scientific way to locate the optimal placement for this new hardware?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>Yes. All lines need to lead fair, not rub, and not cross. Need more info?

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>With a pop-top, it looks like there isn't a lot of wiggle room.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>I think the amount of room available depends on the model year. By moving my handrails forward and outboard a bit, I was able to get room for as many as six lines down each side stacked in two levels of three lines each.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>... winch left over from the old mast. I thought I'd use it to tension the hank-on jib.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>Yes. I moved my jib halyard winch to exactly above the galley light fixture where it is used to tension the headsail halyards.

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>... tensioning the main.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>Again depending on the model year I believe, you could have either a fixed or sliding gooseneck. Mine slides, and has a multi-part gooseneck downhaul for tensioning the main luff (lead aft of course). In other words, when raising the main, I first slack off the vang and downhaul. After I stop the main halyard with the shackle touching the masthead fitting, I then tension the luff using the 3:1 downhaul. Then I tension the leech using the 7:1 vang.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/07/2003 : 22:31:04

Before mounting my triple organizers and double clutches, I arranged everything with lines running through each component. I found that with the oganizers oriented about 30 degrees from straight fore-and aft (rather than 45 degrees), there was ample room for three lines between the poptop and the handrail. There's no need to move the rails for three lines on each side.

To position the winch (aft of the clutches), line up the right side of the drum (looking forward) with the clutch that will hold the halyard in question. You don't want the winch putting a sideways force on the clutch. Which halyard do you want to lead to the winch? Better ask the racers. <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 04/08/2003 : 00:29:17

If you leave a good 6" space between the clutch and the winch, you can have both halyards winchable.
Derek

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