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Tray
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Initially Posted - 04/24/2003 : 21:11:30

Has anyone tried those rubber things that slip over your winches and convert them to self tailers? Seems like a cheap interim setup until I have enough units for replacement winches.

Tray
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/24/2003 : 21:25:32

I asked this very question last season when I considered spending a West Marine rebate on a pair, but since a consensus couldn't be reached on their effectiveness, I passed. If winchers garner a passing grade this time around I may try them.

Here's a link to the Wincher topic, which also contains Derek's boat sinking story. Isn't there some superstition about sailing with someone who survived a shipwreck? <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1725

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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 04/24/2003 : 23:00:20

I've used them for years. They work ok ... some times a little slipping and, well, they aren't $800. self tailing winches, either.
Very thin sheet lines will form too many coils and cause binding. I use 3/8th lines now. "Winchers" worked better with 1/2 inch.

We made canvas covers to protect them from UV damage when not in use.

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Mark L.
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 04/24/2003 : 23:23:28

Mine work well with 7/16" jib sheets -- 3 wraps below, 4th held tight in the groove.

I don't race. And while I rarely tack, if at all, on a typical weekend outing of 45+ miles (furling/unfurling the jib is a much more common exercize), I often adjust sail trim and for this I feel they are significantly more convenient than without them.

I think comparing winchers vs. no winchers ($30 differential) is much more meaningful than comparing winchers to self-tailers (roughly $770 differential).

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Bill Holcomb
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Response Posted - 04/25/2003 : 09:22:38

Hi Tray,

I've had 'em on Snickerdoodle for years. They don't do much as self tailers IMO. But, they do cleat off the line on the winch for light breeze conditions - instead of having to secure the sheet to the cleat near the winch.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

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MattL
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Response Posted - 04/26/2003 : 00:37:41

Not meaning to change the subject, but I have to ask Richard a question. I see you have netting up, I do too, and it looks like the cushions on your cockpit lifelines have a skirt. If this is so how are they attached at the bottom.
IMHO I think the winchers aren't worth the effort. I have to work at it to tail and winch by myself, but can do it. It is easier to have a crew do the job. After reading the previous threads I don't think I'll make the purchace.

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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RichardG
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Response Posted - 04/26/2003 : 11:43:09

Matt:

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> cushions on your cockpit lifelines have a skirt...how are they attached at the bottom.
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

I think they're called windcloths. Came with the boat -- three sections (2 sides and the back). They attach at the bottom with snaps and to the top lifeline/rail and sides/together with straps (they're designed to fit better without the lifeline cushion). There's a zipper for quick access to the engine.

We didn't use them until after we had kids, but we found they're nice regardless -- helps block cool winter/spring winds, spray, waves, plus creates more privacy in a crowded anchorage.

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RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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MattL
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Response Posted - 04/27/2003 : 03:13:16

Thanks Richard,
Oh great photos too.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt/Brigitte Loeffler
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/27/2003 : 09:58:32

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I think they're called windcloths.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

In the Navy, they were referred to as "windscreens".

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