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eric.werkowitz
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Initially Posted - 06/22/2003 :  22:42:02  Show Profile
I want to rig an easier method of controlling headsale sheet angle. The cars are difficult to move very far forward. Has anyone used the "running sheet" adjuster method? It uses a floating block connected to an adjustable line run through a fixed block near the forward end of the track and then led aft. Easing the line allows block, through which the sheet runs, to rise farther above the deck. This is equivalent to moving the car back. Trimming the line pulls the block closer to the deck as if one moved the jib sheet car forward. I thought I could use two of those light-weight, all-composite blocks so they wouldn't beat too hard on the deck during tacks.

If anyone has experience with this arrangement, I'd like to hear your thoughts.

Eric Werkowitz
C25 #4969 (still the Salty Dog!)


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Douglas
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Response Posted - 06/23/2003 :  01:58:13  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
I think harken has a system. It uses an adjustable car controled by lines and tirning blocks. Its a very nice system from a production company and the price refects that.

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Response Posted - 06/23/2003 :  12:02:14  Show Profile  Visit luckystar's Homepage
Garhauer sells a system like Harken's but, I think, for cheaper. I've been slowly replacing my old Seaway gear with Garhauer on board and have been very happy.


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tinob
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Response Posted - 06/23/2003 :  12:59:16  Show Profile
Hi Eric,

West advisories suggest that the adjust ment of head sail car trim gets done when it's easily done. Just back from sailing/trolling/trying to catch the guy aheard of me and wishing I had an adjustable headsail car unit. I've felt the need several time over the years but never asigned sufficient significance to it to make the plunge. Something always supercedes it. Wish I had it? Do I need it? will I ever get it? Answers yes,yes, yes...Now? Not likely.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/23/2003 :  13:40:10  Show Profile
Eric, you talking about Twings... I run em.... See pic

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eric.werkowitz
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Response Posted - 06/23/2003 :  19:44:01  Show Profile
Arlyn,

That's what I'm talking about! I assume you like the system. Any drawbacks that come to mind?

PS Val, note that this is about 1/20 the price of a production adjustable car system.

Eric Werkowitz
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/23/2003 :  20:07:08  Show Profile
Eric... everything it seems on a boat has compromises. The benefits of twings are offset by a couple of issues. When first starting to use them, there was a loose block laying on deck to step or slip on. After a while us slow learners get it and the lazy side can be hauled in short which helps... as thats the side for going forward for deck work.

Running them requires a block or fairlead somewhere forward of the winch to bring the sheets to proper winching angle.

They of course place two more lines over the cabin bulkhead and into the cockpit... though the lines are not long. The adjusting lines are very easy to trim while under load so that no winch is required. I don't know about on a 150 genoa... but I'm guessing they would be no problem to adjust.



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eric.werkowitz
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Response Posted - 06/23/2003 :  20:36:35  Show Profile
Arlyn,

I thought I might use a simple car with a ring to hold the forward block and use my existing cars as fair leads for the sheets. I think I'll also go with those real light composite blocks for the "floaters."

Eric Werkowitz
C25 #4969


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