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Wind Chime
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Initially Posted - 07/15/2003 : 18:25:02

Have a hole in my Genoa on a roller furling do I have to drop the mast to take the sail off to get it repaired.
John

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NuNees
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Response Posted - 07/15/2003 : 18:34:37

No need to drop the mast....The bolt rope of the Genoa should slid down the extrusion of the furler as easy as the main slides down.
Just undo the haylard...voila...it's ina pile on the deck.

Bill Jaworowski
Moonbeams
C25 SR/SK #4953 Lake Carlyle, IL

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Earl Landers
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Response Posted - 07/15/2003 : 20:06:39

John,
What roller furler do you have? Is the jib halyard attached to our sail? The reason I ask is the locking cam on my old CDI Reefer II would not release from the deck and the mast had to be dropped to get the genoa off.

Earl Landers
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jncarlin
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Response Posted - 07/15/2003 : 21:42:08

John-

Before dropping the genoa sail, make sure that you have a sufficiently long jib halyard (that attaches to the sail car that is in the furling extrusion) that will enable you to pull the genoa back up - if it is too short, you will not be able to reach it after the genoa is down.

Joe Carlin

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Wind Chime
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Response Posted - 07/16/2003 : 09:44:10

I will check the furler out when I get to go back to the boat. It appeared to me that their was a rope that went up the furler and maybe came out the top to a roller then connected to the genoa as a halyard does,but at the bottom it looked like a separate line to hold the genoa to the furler. I do not know for sure which furler I have, I do know that the furler has a cable like a forestay coming out of it that has a turnbuckle that attaches to the bow if that is any help, also the furler is aluminum and the genoa slips thrugh it.
thanks,
John

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JoergK
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Response Posted - 07/16/2003 : 17:19:34

John,
the "cable" is indeed the forestay. There should be no rope running up the furler, instead the halyard should run up the mast and then connect to the top of the genoa or the halyard (=top) swivel of the furler. Are you sure the whole thing was properly installed? Most important, the halyard at the top should connect to the top swivel in a slight angle (NOT in line with the forestay/furler extrusion), otherwise you may run in trouble by wrapping it around the stay, and thats a problem.

Joerg
86C25 SR-SK Second Wind

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Wind Chime
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Response Posted - 07/16/2003 : 17:27:40

No there is not a halyard as such,just looks like a line goes into the extrusion and comes out the top to a swivel
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John

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JoergK
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Response Posted - 07/17/2003 : 10:39:10

well it seems that this line may act like a halyard (how otherwise do you get the sail up?); unusual though that it should run INSIDE the extrusion. Does the line come out at the bottom? Supposing it does, what happens when you pull down the genoa?
In any case there must be a way to get the sail down without loosening the stay and/or unstepping the mast.

Joerg
86C25 SR-SK Second Wind

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 07/17/2003 : 13:45:17

It sounds like the old CDI furlers. They have rigid aluminium extrusions and a self-contained halyard that does run up inside one of the slots in the extrusion.

The bottom of the halyard exits the extrusion a couple of feet above the drum, goes through a clam cleat integral to the top portion of the drum and wraps around the top section of the drum.

On mine the halyard is a bit short and connects to a smaller diameter line with something that looks like a large stainless paperclip (factory set-up). Make sure the smaller diameter line is connected or the halyard will end up out of reach when you lower the genny.

John Mason
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pronounced "Ali Paroosa"
1982 - FK/SR #3290

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 07/17/2003 : 19:25:30

John,

Check out www.sailcdi.com. You can print manuals for what ever CDI model furler you may have and get parts if needed. Hope this helps!

Kip Casada

'90 C25 #6021
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Wind Chime
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Response Posted - 07/18/2003 : 17:13:28

Thanks, but I do not believe mine is a CDI. It doesnt look like the pics on the web site
John

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John Mason
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Response Posted - 07/18/2003 : 17:39:55

Were you looking at the Reefer models?

http://www.sailcdi.com/sp4apage.htm

A lot of the parts aren't available any more.

John Mason
<img src="http://www.users.qwest.net/~jamason/ali.jpg" border=0>
pronounced "Ali Paroosa"
1982 - FK/SR #3290

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 07/18/2003 : 22:09:19

John,

From your discription it sounds just like my '90 vintage cdi furler (an ff2). They have made various changes year to year, so the picture may not be exactly like whats on your boat. I'd be happy to fax you a copy of the 1990 flexible furler 2 manual, if you like. The original manual that I have and what is on line,don't match exactly either.

Kip Casada

'90 C25 #6021
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Wind Chime
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Response Posted - 07/22/2003 : 11:34:50

Kip,
That would really be a big help thanks
John

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Kip C
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Response Posted - 07/22/2003 : 22:43:58

John

Just let me know what fax number you would like it sent to. You can e-mail me at casamodoprop@yahoo.com

Kip Casada

'90 C25 #6021
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deastburn
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Response Posted - 07/22/2003 : 23:40:16

If the furler is a CDI, then the correct furler for the C25 was an FF4. CDI has a special kit that allows changing to the newer drum setup (way more reliable and solid than the original) without replacing the aluminum foils. The old halyard had a stainless steel "paper clip", the newer one is welded to a plastic car that runs up a track in the foil. When lowering the genoa, it is important to attach a "messenger line" to the halyard car so that it doesn't simply disappear up the foil to the top of the mast. Also, check that the swivel is not too far below the top of the headstay, or it may rub on (and wear)the headstay in a place where you will never see the wear and tear. BTW, if you decide to change to the new drum, buy it with the ballbearing hub, not the stainless steel washer, which requires way more effort to furl and unfurl.

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falco_esq
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Response Posted - 04/05/2004 : 15:41:10

Does anyone have a diagram or picture of everything I need to rig my roller-furler? Is it proper to run it up the forestay? Or do I just use the halyard and pull it straight up?

(I am sure this is easy, just want to make ure I am doing it rights and have all the right parts!!)

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Response Posted - 04/05/2004 : 18:07:38

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by falco_esq
 Does anyone have a diagram or picture of everything I need to rig my roller-furler? Is it proper to run it up the forestay? Or do I just use the halyard and pull it straight up?
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Jason,

What kind of furler do you have?...CDI, Harken, Schaefer...?

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capn rick
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Response Posted - 04/08/2004 : 16:21:17

paper clip thing came off internal halyard on CDI furler and bitter end scampered to top of foil last weekend.
I need to drop the rig anyway. never been down in the 6 years I've owned the boat.

rick stieg
"cavale" #2458

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