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Doug
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Initially Posted - 07/20/2003 :  19:49:48  Show Profile
Great day on the water: Sunny, 18k winds for a while, my parents up from AZ for a sail....
Then the motor stops.

My Honda will start fine, but I can't throttle up at all. If I give it gas it dies. We got it in by running slow with the choke out. Gas is new. Vent was open. No fuel deliver issues.

Any suggestions as to what to look for (Other than a new Yamaha 9)?

Doug - #1913 Noeta
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Dave B
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Response Posted - 07/20/2003 :  21:26:35  Show Profile
Crud in the high-speed carb jet. I had it once with my prior Honda.

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT
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lcharlot
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Antigua and Barbuda
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Response Posted - 07/21/2003 :  00:28:36  Show Profile
If you don't have an in-line filter on the fuel line, install one and change it every year. They cost less than $5 and are worth it. Look into your gas tank with a flashlight sometime and you will likely see at least a little dirt floating around in there.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/21/2003 :  10:17:53  Show Profile
That 'running with the choke out' is a very good clue that you aren't getting enough fuel from the main jet in the carb. Crud in the fuel supply seems to be a very common cause of problems in the newer generation of outboards.

As others have already posted, thoroughly clean carb and fuel system...

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25
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Douglas
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Response Posted - 07/21/2003 :  11:56:17  Show Profile  Visit Douglas's Homepage
Other Honda problems I have had. Bad "O" ring seal on the quick disconnect. This let the engine suck air into the fuel line rather than pick up fuel from the tank. Cant remember but does the Honda have a fine mesh screen in the fuel line system on the right side ? Its been a while. Sure does sound like a jet problem though.

Doug&Ruth
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Tacoma Wa.
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Doug
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Response Posted - 07/22/2003 :  01:15:43  Show Profile
Brought the old Honda home and pulled the carb. Shiny and clean inside and out, but I cleaned it again anyway. The fuel tank had some sort of a brown liquid (water) in the bottom of the tank. I drained it into the car and flushed the tank. I'll instal the filter and see if all works tomorrow.

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 07/22/2003 :  08:20:28  Show Profile
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Brought the old Honda home and pulled the carb. Shiny and clean inside and out, but I cleaned it again anyway. The fuel tank had some sort of a brown liquid (water) in the bottom of the tank. I drained it into the car and flushed the tank. I'll instal the filter and see if all works tomorrow.

Doug - #1913 Noeta
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Brown liquid? Is this a steel gas tank? If so, then the "brown" color is RUST and you should be thinking about a new polyethylene fuel tank. Steel fuel tanks are galvanized, and if you are seeing rust, that means the galvanizing has failed somewhere and the tank has started to self-destruct.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 07/22/2003 :  09:57:55  Show Profile
A clean carb is a good sign.. while you were in there, did you blow the jets out (in reverse direction) with carb cleaner or compressed air?

All it takes is a grain of sand to mess things up.

As far as varnish prevention etc.. I'm going to start treating all my small engine fuel with Techron (a Chevron product). I've been very impressed with it's cleaning power in my cars.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25
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