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lcharlot
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Initially Posted - 07/23/2003 : 23:17:14

One of the C-25WK owners in our sailing club has come up with the following info: the first Catalina 25 "Mark IV" was Hull Number 5803, built in June '88. The last Catalina 25 was Hull Number 6031, built in December 1991. What defines a Catalina 25 as a "Mark IV" is the lack of a keel trunk and bilge space under the cabin floor, owing to the deletion of the Swing Keel option which allowed the cabin floor to be dropped 4". What is interesting about this June build date is that it implies the possibility that NOT all of the 1988's are "Mark IV"'s as I had previously thought.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA

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Dave B
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Mali
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 : 10:55:22

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...which allowed the cabin floor to be dropped 4"...
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I want one! <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 : 12:04:03

yea, an extra four inches shouod help my head bangs some! <img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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atgep
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Response Posted - 07/24/2003 : 21:41:19

My 1988 is #5775 wing. It appears to be a mk 4. I have more headroom than in other 25'S . My bilge is only 4-5 in at the keel bolts. The hull touches the floor-pan at the edges of the settee.

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/25/2003 : 00:05:45

I have hull number 5900, which is a wing keel. This is the first I have heard it called a Mark 4.
Other owners of Catalina 25's in my sailing club have checked it out and seem to like it, especially the flat floor.
As soon as I get around to figuring out my new digital camera I'll send some pics

Frank Gloss
89WK/TR

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 07/26/2003 : 01:15:04

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I have hull number 5900, which is a wing keel. This is the first I have heard it called a Mark 4.
Frank Gloss
89WK/TR
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Frank - the "MARK" designation is my own personal system for identifying Catalina 25's. The "Mark I" consists of all early model C-25's that have the gas tank in the Lazarette. The "Mark II"'s are the '82-'85 boats, beginning with the first hull that has the separate gas locker (identifiable by having two hatches on the portside cockpit seat instead of just one). The "Mark III"'s are all '86-'87 hulls beginning with the first one to have the Flush Mount cabin windows and ending with the last hull to have a swing keel trunk and bilge space under the cabin floor. The "Mark IV"'s are all of the "final design" boats; beginninmg with the first hull to have the "dropped" cabin floor and a small sump around the keel bolts instead of a large bilge space under the whole cabin floor. Mark IV's also have the new-style pop-top molding, new style stern pulpit with built-in traveller, and more white-veneered cabinetry (less wood) in the cabin. I guess I will put Quiet Time up for sale next spring and start looking for a Mark IV as soon as I sell her.

My Wish List: '89-'90 Catalina 25WK/SR with electric start Honda or Yamaha 9.9HT outboard, porta-pottie (I hate marine heads, too complex and takes up too much space in a 25' sailboat), no trailer so I can have a new one made to my specifications, CDI FF4 roller furler, little or no electronics added by PO's so that I can get a new GPS/Sounder and not have to pull out old instruments and patch the holes. There is one up in Tacoma Washington that I considered, but it had too many things I didn't want for the asking price, like a non-electric-start outboard, and the trailer looked too lightly built for a Catalina 25 and was in marginal looking condition. Well, someday...!

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA

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cat5951
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Response Posted - 07/26/2003 : 08:28:19

Here are a few pics of 5951 a 1989 WK/TR

On the trailer at Rocky Fork Lake in Ohio
<img src="http://www2.go-concepts.com/~whowson/OnTrailer.jpg" border=0>

The 'flat' cabin sole with newest crew member
<img src="http://www2.go-concepts.com/~whowson/FlatSole.jpg" border=0>

In the cove
<img src="http://www2.go-concepts.com/~whowson/OnMooring.jpg" border=0>

<img src="http://www2.go-concepts.com/~whowson/OnWall.jpg" border=0>

Bill

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 07/26/2003 : 10:21:15

Holy cow ... what a beautiful boat!!!!!!!

Buzz Maring
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~~Freya~~
C-25 SK/SR #68

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 07/26/2003 : 16:41:28

Bill,
Yes your boat is really pretty. I love to see someone elses boat just like mine, especially when they are taking such good care of it. I see you have the original backstay adjuster. I got the Catalina Direct adjustable backstay. It only has an 8 to one purchase, which I think is not strong enough. The backstay adjuster they sell for the 22's is 12 to 1.
You gotta love those 89 WK's

Larry,
You had a great influence on my decision to find an 89 WK in your great articles on buying a C25. I did get a tall rig though. It will heel over just so much, and then sort of stop. I bought a new Honda 8 hp XL shaft electric tiller start., and had an aluminum and stainless steel trailer custom built for it for 5 grand. I am currently working on the electronics, and patching some holes, so I know what you mean. I plan on getting the new Schaeffer CF-700 furler. It is made for larger trailerables. The foil section is round, which will take more torsional loading than a flat section (it's the engineer in me) They are selling for about 9 hundred, and will take a standard #6 luff rope. Both of the 89 WK's I looked at had SR instruments added to the boat with thru hulls. Both on mine were abandoned in place. SR sent me a new knotmeter for 200 bucks after I sent them the display back. I slipped the new sending unit into the existing thru hull sleeve. The SR thru hulls have tapered sides and require a special bit with taperes on them. It appears to be a very solid thru hull. The depthmeter was toast and the DPO added a fishfinder, so I'll just use that for now.
I added an Electric porta potti. Really nice. Biggest seat available for us big butted people. Also has the deepest bown so less chance of splashback.
I just added a manly CD player. What makes a manly CD player you ask? It has a remote. Just a matter of time before neptune has it.
No cable hum or keel clunk. Don't miss that at all.
When I talked to Lowell last winter and asked his advice on the boat he asked me where it was, and if I didn't buy it, he would. You figure he could have any boat he wants, and he wants an 89 WK. Go figure.

Frank Gloss
89WK/TR

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lcharlot
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Response Posted - 07/28/2003 : 23:57:50

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figure he could have any boat he wants, and he wants an 89 WK. Go figure.
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Lowell's personal boat is a Capri 22 named "Steamboat Willie". If he was serious when he said he would by the '89WK you turned down, I wonder if he is starting to get a little cramped and wants more room? The Capri 22 is a "racing oriented" boat, and inside, it makes the Catalina 22 look positively roomy! They are fast though, and will run rings around a Catalina 22, especially in light air and downwind.

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Sacramento, CA

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Dave B
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Mali
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Response Posted - 07/29/2003 : 09:42:50

I suspect he could afford both... <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Dave Bristle, 1985 C-25 #5032 "Passage" SR/FK/Dinette/Honda in SW CT

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