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What anchor will fit into a Mark 4 locker?

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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 10/08/2003 : 22:22:44

Hi there,
I know that there aren't many of the so called mark IV boats out there, that is the 88 and 89 models. They have a deeper anchor locker than the previous models. I have had holding problems with my danforth holding in grass, and that is a well known problem with danforths.
Has anybody put a plow, cqr, or bruce into the newer deeper locker?
If so, what kind?
I'd ask Santa for a CQR but I'd feel really bad if it slipped out of his sled, pulled him out of the sky, and then nobody would get their toys.
All you can find in Knoxville are danforth anchors so I can't even borrow one from a store to see if it would fit

Frank Gloss
89WK/TR

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Todd Frye
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Response Posted - 10/10/2003 : 11:38:27

I only use my locker for the rode and chain. A suggestion from one of the old timers at our marina, (after viewing one of our dock mates get crushed as he attempted to keep his boat off the rocks of our harbor) is to keep your anchor at the ready. I now keep my anchor stowed in a bow pulpit bracket for immediate use, incase my outboard fails (as in the above case) or high winds that come up on our lake, making headway too dangerous. I hope to get an anchor roller installed this winter, as an even better method to stow and deploy my anchor, in case of emergencies. Todd Frye

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 10/10/2003 : 20:22:23

Im with Todd: Any time Im out on the boat the anchor is out and ready to deploy. Its one heck of a safty tool. I recomend getting a holder or hanger so you can keep it outside the locker. BTW with weed or grass I recomend a CQR. 25 Lbs.

Doug&Ruth
Triska (Alberg 29)
Tacoma Wa.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/10/2003 : 22:44:05

I'll mention the 14# Delta (for half the price of the CQR, incidentally). I don't know how it would fit in the Mk IV locker--it won't fit in my shallower space. The hinge may give the CQR the advantage for storage, but a review I read a few years ago gave the nod to the Delta for setting and holding in grass, rocks and other bottoms, and handling wind/current shifts, and I liked the price and weight.

Now, why is an anchor secured to a bow pulpit safer than one lying on its rode in an anchor locker? It seems to me I can get mine out of the locker faster than I could detach it from the pulpit or even a roller--assuming it's secured properly so it won't inadvertently deploy (fall off). Granted, my Delta won't fit in the locker, so I have a Danforth and rode in there, and the Delta is in a bag down below.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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eric.werkowitz
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Response Posted - 10/11/2003 : 00:06:21

Dave,

Have you ever tried to get the anchor out in a hurry and pass it through the pulpit so that the rode will not be wrapped around some bit of deck hardware? The few times I have, I wished I had it already threaded correctly and ready to go. The pulpit mount sounds good to me.

Eric Werkowitz
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/11/2003 : 11:24:28

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The pulpit mount sounds good to me.
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OK, so does anyone have a suggestion for a pulpit mount for a Delta? It has a short crossbar between the two "ears", and a hole in the shank for a retrieval line...

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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jerryTN
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Response Posted - 10/13/2003 : 23:10:10

Frank,

I have a plow anchor and a Delta that I could let you try out for size in your anchor well. I live in Oakdale, about 50 mi. west of Knoxville. E-Mail me at hardinj@highland.net and we can figure out a time for the fitting.

fair winds,
jerry hardin

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Todd Frye
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Response Posted - 10/14/2003 : 12:24:05

Frank,
Just a few follow up thoughts on anchors, etc. If you have doubts as to the best method of deploying your anchor, I would encourage you to go through a few different drills to actually see what works best for you and your equipment. At first, in calm weather, in a low traffic area, with good visibility. Then, progressively choose more challenging conditions, until you are setting the anchor at night, close to the rocks, in high winds. Invariably, if you find yourself in a situation where you have to set your anchor (for safety/survival/emergencies) it will probably be in challenging conditions. This is a lesson learned from an awesome sailor who has moved on from our lake to blue water adventures. When we would be coming in off the lake due to darkness, high winds, approaching storms, etc., Ron would be suiting up in his rain slicker and harness to test his solo skills in snotty weather. I also advocate throwing yourself overboard (first in good conditions) to test your procedures for Man Overboard. With all these drills, you find problems that these discussions are unable to address. I haven’t tried getting into a knockdown situation on purpose in my C-25 swing keel, and will probably avoid that at all costs, but the other drills I mentioned have given me confidence and a working knowledge of procedures that may come in handy some day.I stow my Danforth in a West Marine anchor bracket on the port side of my bow pulpit. This system can be deployed in 15 seconds with the rode paying out fast and smooth from the closed anchor locker. Fair Winds. Todd Frye

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/14/2003 : 13:27:08

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I stow my Danforth in a West Marine anchor bracket on the port side of my bow pulpit. This system can be deployed in 15 seconds with the rode paying out fast and smooth from the closed anchor locker. Fair Winds. Todd Frye
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Good suggestions, Todd. I'm curious--any reason for choosing the port side? I always seem to lower mine from the starboard side--maybe because I'm right handed, or the locker opens to port. I did notice that I can't hang the anchor centered on the pulpit--that's where my running light is mounted.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Todd Frye
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Response Posted - 10/14/2003 : 18:37:22

Dave, I seem to have a lot of weight on the starboard side of "boaty". My O.B., battery, water tank and yours truely are usually located on the starboard side. The anchor to port may help the ballance a bit. Todd Frye

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