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dlucier
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 :  15:02:08  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">You know, this forum doesn't have to use the default color scheme. I could change the scheme and include the red of Catalina. Or does everybody like the blue scheme?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I'm kind of partial to blue since it is my favorite color. The accent colors on my boat are blue, my truck is blue, I talk til I'm blue in the face....

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MattL
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 :  15:04:08  Show Profile
Just wanted to try out the new smilies
Sure is a lot easier, but is there anyway of getting a priate
Have a great last two days of work and enjoy the week end.
Our club is having an awards party this saturday. A friend of mine and I have been giving our own awards to people that don't normally get them and I am finishing up the last one now. We have a couple of man overboard awards., a Sand Bar Bob award , bob isn't getting it this year though, we had a submarine award but no one sank this year, and a few others too.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 :  15:59:41  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Hey Matt - what is a priate?

Okay - I have been following the discussion of the Blue Text and am a little confused. Why can't some people see it?

Also don't we just go with plain old black text. Many of us pop in quickly at work, and a screen full of red, in my opinion says Hey boss I ain't working......

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 :  16:01:18  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Just wanted to try out the new smilies. Sure is a lot easier, but is there anyway of getting a pirate<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Avast ye matey!

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 :  17:44:23  Show Profile
I don't know what blue are talking about. I have several and they all work for me.

1. Dark Blue on the heading line with white lettering. Good contrast, easily readable.

2. On the reply to message, the one with all the neat smiley faces, although not all are really smailey. On this page the light blue background and a darker blue lettering works fine for me

3. The lettering in message posts appears to be blue, but hard for my eyes to really distinguish, but what ever color it works for me!

So can we be specific about where some are having trouble

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/23/2003 :  18:13:31  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Here's the deal with the color... navyblue used in html code which is what this softeware is written in... is not a standard color. It is a Microsoft gimmick to cause problems with the competition. It is non standard and Mac with OS operating system and Mozilla, Firebird and other browsers that are written to standards can't handle the word "navyblue" in the code.... they can however, handle the html hex number for navyblue.

Because they can't understand the color, they parse it incorrectly by defaulting to black. The problem is, the text in these screens is a very dark blue, so there is so little contrast between the text and background that it makes it almost impossible to read the text.

To stay with navyblue is not a problem... but it would mean editing each reference to navyblue and replacing with the hex number designator instead of the word navyblue.


<font color="pink">There is an example of the difficulty we have in seeing text on the various screens... of course the colors are different...but perhaps this gives an idea</font id="pink">

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 10/24/2003 :  08:25:38  Show Profile


Silly me - I didn't go past the new quick reply.

(this is fun!)

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/24/2003 :  08:58:39  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Here is what Mac and Mozilla / Firebird browsers see on the posting, search, profile pages etc.

http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/forum_page.html
http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/profile.html
http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/search.html

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 10/24/2003 :  15:23:18  Show Profile
Resistance is futile! Bow down and pay homage to the All Powerful.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/24/2003 :  18:41:34  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
JB,

I really was not anti Microsoft .. until I ran into the color issue. I changed to Mozilla not because it was an alternate to IE... My computer engineer son had suggested I take a look at it, and after giving it a try, I was quickly convinced that it served my needs better than IE. It is much more feature equipped than IE and runs very fast. It has built in pop up blocker, built in editor with spell checker, built in html composer/publisher, has tabbed windows (which are fantastic), has user oriented tool bar (just drag favorite web sites to the tool bar and they are always one click away), receives add ons easily such as Google tool bar, etc.

I had heard stories of Microsoft playing games to frustrate competitors... but having no personal experiences, they didn't catch my attention. Now, I see!



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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/24/2003 :  20:13:01  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Arlyn Stewart</i>
<br />Here is what Mac and Mozilla / Firebird browsers see on the posting, search, profile pages etc.

http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/forum_page.html
http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/profile.html
http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/search.html

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/25/2003 :  02:00:44  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Frank, I can see the blue just fine on your pic... and I can see it just fine if I used IE, but I don't use IE any more. What browser are you using?

btw, here is the screen html code I copied from the web site which showed the dark non contrasting colors.... the change is that I edited the 0a0b0e (the one that Mozilla inserted because it couldn't parse the non standard code and thus chose a navy color because that was the first name in the non standard name) hex code and exchanged it for the proper color for navyblue which is hex 9fafdf and the results show the proper color.

http://www.stewartfam.net/arlyn/search2.html


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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/25/2003 :  11:07:58  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
I use Safari, it is available at the Apple site. I believe it is a Mozilla browser but I could be wrong.
http://www.thinksecret.com/news/safaritabbedbrowsing.html

looks like I am wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_ browser

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 10/27/2003 :  00:59:06  Show Profile
Hey, what's happening? I went to the second page and now the screen is reeeeallllly wiiiddee. How do I change this so I don't have to use the scroll bar at the bottom, going back and forth to read the message?
Gary

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/27/2003 :  06:55:57  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Gary, Does this happen on all threads or a few? All the post in a thread will conform to the widest post in that thread. If a picture for example is posted that is wider than the composer offerings... then all post are widened to conform.

For this reason, on a volunteer basis its been friendly to restrict width to pictures to avoid causing this to happen. I'm not sure that a magic number of pixel widths has been posted that keeps within the boundry, but it may be 600. For example, the first page of this thread had no wide pictures, but the 2nd contains Franks post of a picture (a picture of the forum composer) with 923 pixel width that likely widens all the rest causing the need to use the scroll bar.

But, having said all that, this has been an ongoing issue so perhaps something else has changed that is affecting your view.

Closing the browser side bar will give more screen width to the forum and limit this problem somewhat.


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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 10/27/2003 :  15:15:00  Show Profile
I think I'm with IE, and on older dell deminision with microsoft. my blues are like frank's and have no legibility problems. but if some are having difficulty with this, as Arlyn, then other colors would work for me.

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Spike
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Response Posted - 10/28/2003 :  20:36:10  Show Profile
There is now a "jump to the last post" button. It is in the Last Post column by the last poster's name. It looks like this .
Spike

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 10/28/2003 :  20:38:25  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Thanks Spike.... hope Y'all remain safe.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 10/28/2003 :  20:42:49  Show Profile
Boy, the forum just keeps getting better and better!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 10/28/2003 :  21:13:43  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Steve Milby</i>
<br />Boy, the forum just keeps getting better and better!
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Every time I drop in on Trailer Sailor, I'm reminded how much better this is--in a bunch of ways! Thanks, Spike, for moving us ahead, and Mark, for getting us started!

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 10/28/2003 :  21:26:27  Show Profile
Spike - I just updated my profile in the Owner's Directory to reflect my new e-mail address.
Derek

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ssteakley
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Response Posted - 10/28/2003 :  22:26:37  Show Profile
Spike.....
in Austin terms,
Freaky!,
Steve

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gnorgan
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Response Posted - 10/29/2003 :  01:28:26  Show Profile
Aryln, Frankie did it! He posted a really wide graphic.
Don't know how to change this. I wonder if everyone gets to use the slide bar now
Fantastic job on this, Spike. Now if you can just remain safe and out of the fire zone. I've heard that some of the fires are turning around and heading in different directions today. Hope you folks (Jim and the girls) are safe.
Sailing our C25 soon in Mission Bay.

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 10/29/2003 :  09:37:33  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I wonder if everyone gets to use the slide bar now<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Yes......

Still having the blues....

Oscar
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/29/2003 :  14:25:28  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by gnorgan</i>
<br />Aryln, Frankie did it! He posted a really wide graphic.
Don't know how to change this. I wonder if everyone gets to use the slide bar now<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Sorry I guess my new 133 Mhz G4 Macintosh PowerBook with its 17" (1440X900) screen is just sooo wide I hadn't notice the problems it was causing for the "have nots".

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