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aeckhart
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Initially Posted - 10/31/2003 :  09:20:00  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
After reading about fhopper's air conditioning mod to the lazerette, I was inspired to rethink an idea I've been kicking around for some time - removing the bulkhead panel, shortening the depth and length of the lazerette, and installing an athwartships berth in place of the quarterberth. This would be much like the C250. It would provide at least a four by six foot sleeping birth with storage between the berth and transum.

Any comments? Suggestions?

Al
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Al Eckhart
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 :  10:09:35  Show Profile
In spite of being composed of rather 'whimpy' material, that bulkhead may provide longitudinal structural support and stiffness. Something to consider anyway. I think that some replacement structure could be engineered... like adding a bulkhead just aft of the winch.

For my own part, I was gonna install a porthole in the dumpster and make it into a private cabin. ;>) Dunno what they were thinking when they designed that 'feature'.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 :  11:45:31  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ClamBeach</i>
<br /> Dunno what they were thinking when they designed that 'feature'.
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It is a sail locker. I have four headsail bags and three fenders standing up in there and it is a perfect fit. The trick is to stand things up, don't pile things on top of other things. Life jackets and throwable cushions go on the shelf. For me it keeps all of that out of my interior. Our boats really kind of small. For me anything out of place destroys the sense of space inside. Bedding is a big issue for me, I like it stowed but dry.
As for creating a berth back there; brilliant and worth loosing the storage for! The Double that is there now is a single. I am first going to try to replace my folding table (traditional interior) with a folding bed section that will span the salon floor and join the berths. It will make getting to the head a pain but only for me, I am sure my wife will sleep close to the head. That leaves me to go outside to whiz off the dock which I do anyway.

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 :  12:53:33  Show Profile
Al:

An athwartships berth would mean that your hips would still be under the current cockpit floor, which leaves very little room for "rolling over" in your sleep. Once upon a time I tried sleeping in the "second" berth of the "double" quarterberth...it was like being strapped down in a straight-jacket for a night (not that I've ever really done that).

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Raskal
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Response Posted - 10/31/2003 :  18:08:16  Show Profile
I took out the wooden bulkhead in order to do some work in there and liked the spaciousness of it. Now that I've epoxied the bulkhead I'm working on reattaching it with some sort of sliding bolts/quick release pins/grab handles setup so that it can be removed easily on demand--makes it easy to go from storing to sleeping. Home Depot sells a weatherstrip that looks and works exactly like the imitation leather stuff if you want to replace that.

Home Depot also has a nice replacement for the cruddy plywood rack inside: long cedar closet shelf racks that can be easily cut down and screwed right in. ($29 for the size that works here). The cedar can help with the smell in there, too.

Rich Kokoska

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 11/01/2003 :  10:10:13  Show Profile  Visit Oscar's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">That leaves me to go outside to whiz off the dock which I do anyway.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

The EPA is watching you......

Oscar
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Mark Loyacano
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Response Posted - 11/01/2003 :  17:53:54  Show Profile
I removed that bulhead two years ago. No problems noted so far. Also took out the most forward bulkhead (in the forepeak). Inland lake sailing ... so far so good.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/01/2003 :  18:21:31  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Oscar</i>
<br />[quote]That leaves me to go outside to whiz off the dock which I do anyway.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
There's always the galley sink (...as long as the Admiral is sleeping soundly).

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 11/01/2003 :  19:36:29  Show Profile
"There's always the galley sink (...as long as the Admiral is sleeping soundly)."

Remember... a true gentleman removes the dishes first...

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Sunshine Daydream
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Response Posted - 11/11/2003 :  10:28:54  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by ClamBeach</i>
<br />"There's always the galley sink
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or prostate surgery

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