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Arlyn Stewart
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Initially Posted - 11/13/2003 :  13:53:02  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
Interesting to look at the remote buoys. Noted the Georgian bay middle buoy reported 9.8 feet and then when shifting to the southern buoy for Georgian Bay with its additional fetch from the NW winds, it reported 17.1 feet. Thats a lot of wave action for the Great Lakes

The same is true for Northern Huron at 12.5 ft and southern Huron at 15.7 ft.


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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/13/2003 :  15:59:22  Show Profile
That's what makes Great Lakes sailing fun!...Although that might be too much fun.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 11/13/2003 :  16:48:27  Show Profile
Here in the southwest of England the forecast is for 80 m.p.h. winds and rain through Saturday. Makes my No.1 son happy - he repairs roofs!! Looking out over Torbay I can see the wave action picking up.Sure glad I'm not out on TSU!.
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 11/13/2003 :  19:14:06  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
I like it aggresive... but I can't imagine 17 feet on the great lakes. I've experienced what was believed to be 8 footers once. High enough that I couldn't see over them. I was not carrying sail and only had 5 miles to cover.

The short period makes those kind of waves almost like vertical walls.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 11/13/2003 :  19:21:40  Show Profile
9' seas at mid-Long Island Sound in 36 knot winds gusting to 55, and building this evening. I talked to a group of MDs who were tying up a "small" wooden schooner at South Street Seaport in lower Manhattan. The owner, a heart surgeon, had just bought her in Chatham, MA, and they were sailing her to NJ, but conditions were a little hairy today--sheets of spray flying up the East River, and probably huge, breaking seas not far offshore in NY Harbor. The name: Heart's Desire. A real beauty!

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pwhallon
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Response Posted - 11/14/2003 :  09:04:25  Show Profile
I've been in 10 to 12's on lake Erie.

We were fishing on a Marinette 32 and a storm came in from the Canadian side. We did not stay out in the storm but it caught us as we headed in.

Lake Erie is very shallow and you get rollers comming from Canada mixed with chop. It makes for a rough ride.

Fortunately the Marinette is a strong boat and we had no problems.

There were guys out on a bass boat that got swamped. We watched the Coast Guard and Harbor Patrol head out to get them.

PW

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 11/14/2003 :  17:18:32  Show Profile
Excerpts from Friday's Detroit Free Press....

"It's bad enough when the wind blows trees onto houses and power lines and even makes the girders groan in high-rise buildings.

But now one of the Great Lakes is on the move.

Watch out, Buffalo. Sustained westerly winds over the past two days are sending Toledo's portion of Lake Erie your way.

"This wind will blow the water practically out of the westend of the lake," said Wayne Hennessy, of Seaway Marine Transport in St. Catharines, Ontario.

And that's bad news for cargo shippers.

"We have three ships in the upper Maumee River right now that are trying to load cargo, but they can't," Hennessy said of the Toledo area. "They'd go aground."

...The National Weather Service also reported 13-foot waves on southern Lake Huron, but webcams set up there by the windsurfers showed the waves as high as 19 feet.

That tops estimated 18-foot waves on windswept Lake Ontario on Thursday morning. Even Lake St. Clair was respectably roiled, with waves running about 4 feet -- not bad for a lake whose average depth is little more than twice that."

<b>SUPERLATIVES FROM THE STORM </b>

<b>Highest reported wind gust: </b>83 miles per hour, in Flint at 12:48 a.m. Thursday. And that's not an estimate, either, although the National Weather Service was checking into it.

<b>Crazy seas: </b>18 feet, as estimated by a freighter captain on Lake Ontario. Nineteen feet, as measured by windsurfer webcams, on southern Lake Huron.

<b>Fluctuating lake levels: </b>Lake Erie had been averaging about 30 inches above mean chart datum near Toledo, according to Great Lakes shippers. Thursday, it was minus 72. Buffalo, meantime, was up 100 inches.



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